Trabadart the Tragedy Set - Mechanics Challenge
Hello everyone! =D
For this challenge, I'll be asking you to design MECHANICS for a hypothetical set called "Trabadart".
This world works like a greek tragedy: you know how it's going to end from the very beginning, and you know it's gonna end bad. Basically, The world of Trabadart is inevitably going to disappear and the various denizens of Trabadart know it well. But all of them don't deal with the news the same way. They're all at a different stage of what we call "The 5 Stages of Loss & Grief".
The challenge is to designed mechanics that represent those Stages of Loss & Grief. I'm looking for 5+1 different mechanics separated in different colours:
PRIMARY/SECONDARY/TERTIARY COLOUR -- CORRESPONDING STAGE OF LOSS & GRIEF
White/Blue/Black -- Denial
Blue/Black/Red -- Bargaining
Black/Red/Green -- Depression
Red/Green/White -- Anger
Green/White/Blue -- Acceptance
BONUS MECHANIC:
All 5 colours -- Inevitability/Fatality (This mechanic must use the cards in some new way, or use alternate frames that must be described somewhere. Think double-faced cards, devoid frames, face-down cards, sparkly Theros enchantment-creatures, shiny Avacyn Restored miracle cards, etc...)
Here are the specific rules:
- Cards must show the potential of one or more new keyword mechanic (keyword ability, ability word, etc...)
- Each keyword must be linked to Denial, Bargaining, Depression, Anger, Acceptance, or Inevitability/Fatality and stay in the colours alloted to each theme (see above)
- No more than 6 entries per smith (you don't have to do a full cycle, you can focus on whatever stage(s) inspire you the most)
- Cards created for other challenges are accepted
- Deadline in 2 weeks: 27th July
The prizes are:
- First place: 5 favourites on whatever cards you want me to favourite
- Second place: 3 favourites on whatever cards you want me to favourite
- Third place: 1 favourite on whatever card you want me to favourite
If there are enough entries, I'll do a Top 10 and each card of the Top 10 will also get a favourite
Good luck everyone! Tell me in the comments if you didn't understand something, I know this challenge has a lot of tricky rules
For this challenge, I'll be asking you to design MECHANICS for a hypothetical set called "Trabadart".
This world works like a greek tragedy: you know how it's going to end from the very beginning, and you know it's gonna end bad. Basically, The world of Trabadart is inevitably going to disappear and the various denizens of Trabadart know it well. But all of them don't deal with the news the same way. They're all at a different stage of what we call "The 5 Stages of Loss & Grief".
The challenge is to designed mechanics that represent those Stages of Loss & Grief. I'm looking for 5+1 different mechanics separated in different colours:
PRIMARY/SECONDARY/TERTIARY COLOUR -- CORRESPONDING STAGE OF LOSS & GRIEF
White/Blue/Black -- Denial
Blue/Black/Red -- Bargaining
Black/Red/Green -- Depression
Red/Green/White -- Anger
Green/White/Blue -- Acceptance
BONUS MECHANIC:
All 5 colours -- Inevitability/Fatality (This mechanic must use the cards in some new way, or use alternate frames that must be described somewhere. Think double-faced cards, devoid frames, face-down cards, sparkly Theros enchantment-creatures, shiny Avacyn Restored miracle cards, etc...)
Here are the specific rules:
- Cards must show the potential of one or more new keyword mechanic (keyword ability, ability word, etc...)
- Each keyword must be linked to Denial, Bargaining, Depression, Anger, Acceptance, or Inevitability/Fatality and stay in the colours alloted to each theme (see above)
- No more than 6 entries per smith (you don't have to do a full cycle, you can focus on whatever stage(s) inspire you the most)
- Cards created for other challenges are accepted
- Deadline in 2 weeks: 27th July
The prizes are:
- First place: 5 favourites on whatever cards you want me to favourite
- Second place: 3 favourites on whatever cards you want me to favourite
- Third place: 1 favourite on whatever card you want me to favourite
If there are enough entries, I'll do a Top 10 and each card of the Top 10 will also get a favourite
Good luck everyone! Tell me in the comments if you didn't understand something, I know this challenge has a lot of tricky rules
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Custom mechanic "Despond":
Despond (Whenever a creature you control dies, if it wasn't sacrificed, put a -1/-1 counter on this creature.)
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/depression-12
Depression manifests as a numbing of emotion, which I chose to represent with lands becoming Wastes (which would be easier if Waste was a real type and I could just copypasta Blood Moon, but whatever).
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/foul-furrows-2
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/final-flourishing
Esper Denial: Absorb
I considered keywording the Kira ability, but that seemed narrow and frustrating. Absorb is a much richer design space, and it's about denial without locking your opponents out of options.
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/honeyhoard-faerie
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/scarskin-veteran
Grixis Bargaining: Pact
I basically just keyworded the ability from Time Spiral's Pact cycle. Allows for more interesting costs, too.
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/scripture-stricture-1
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/larcened-lightning
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/trabadart-blister-sore
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/despairs-spawn
Anger:
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/raging-conglomeration
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/rancorous-brute
Bargaining:
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/shady-weapons-dealer
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/indignant-customer
What is threatening Trabadart? (This is not an entry.)
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/skorsar-eternal-torture
We're praying for you!
@IanLowenthal I've not exactly settled on what is threatening Trabadart. I picture it like a world dying of old age: it's something inevitable, with various symptoms like memory loss, shaking and dementia (but for a World, not its inhabitants, if that makes sense). Of course those syptoms would have mechanical consequences on cards picturing them, which is why I haven't decided yet. I just know it's not exile-related to avoid being too similar to Zendikar, especially if the world is going to be personified due to these symptoms.
On the various mechanics proposed so far, here is a very vague idea of my thoughts:
@Mila "Rage X" feels clean and interesting, I'm wondering how much design space it has, though your uncommon is already an interesting twist.
@Faiths_Guide "Despond" has a delicious feeling of despair around it Balancing seems tricky, I'd be amused to see how far it can go without being overpowered.
@TrippleBoggey3 "Desolation" seems like a quirky and interesting one-card design but I'm worried about its design space as a 3-colour broad mechanic outside the specific card you created for it.
@Beeswax "Aftershock" is flavourful and very unique while clearly having a very wide design space which you showed very well with those 2 cards I'd be curious to know how handicapping it would actually be to lose the colours of your lands.
"Absorb" is also very interesting, and you designed some pretty imaginative twists around it as well! Having 'Absorb X' obviously being better than having 2 additional toughness, I'm still unsure what the impact of this mechanic on the mana cost of creatures should be.
"Pact" is again a pretty clever take on an old mechanic, with a refreshing point of view There's a lot of subtlety in it, but I'm not sure the templating on Larcened Lightning would actually work as being dealt damage is not a cost, contrary to paying life (as far as I know, I could be wrong). I've commented on it to get some insight of other Cardmsiths ^^
@Lujikul "Offer" is not without ressemblance with "Tribute" which sounds pretty interesting and flavourful in this context ^^ Still I'm not sure "Herald of Dealings" is especially powerful at showing its full potential since it is mostly a 3/3 for 3 with downside at rare.
@IanLowenthal "Misery" and "Wrath" both suffers from a big balancing issue, probably being too powerful.
On Misery, the similar mechanic Treshold looks if there is 7 or more cards in the graveyard and usually gives bonuses like +2/+2 or +4/+4. Misery triggers if there are only 5 cards and gives at least +5/+5, while easily flying off the roof with 2-digits numbers.
Same thing with "Wrath" which is pretty similar to the vampire mechanic on original Innistrad, except they only get *one* +1/+1 counter each time they hit the opponent, not an exponential number starting at 3 or 4 at once.
"Blackmail" is prety interesting and seems relatively balanced since you don't get to keep the creatures and usually can't attack with them. It does take a blocker out, but I'm mostly interested in seeing the quirky things you can do to your opponent's creatures during this brief period of control.
Denial:________________________Bargaining:____________________Depression:__________________
Anger:_________________________Acceptance:___________________Inevitability/Fatality:_________
Sorry for the long post. Anyway, feedback would be much appreciated. Great contest btw.
(Edit: Updated Deathly Judge, Crystal Street Market, and Soul of Trabadart.)
Deny: The very last ability of Deathly Judge will easily wipe the opponent's board, leaving not even a land, so this is part of the overpowered ones, while the keyword may have interesting applications.
Swindle: This is the most confusing to me, I did not understand what this does from the reminder text.
Despair: What an interesting mechanic, I can already imagine a lot of fascinating design with it.
Frenzy: I'm wondering how this fits between undying and persist. It's a very powerful engine that could create infinite combos easily.
Evanescence: Very interesting, I like how you played in "Activated abilities matter", it's pretty fresh ^^ Once again, the life gain ability on Soul of Trabadart is probably a little too much though.
Void: Just to be clear, the "5 colours" mechanic means it will be found in all 5 colours like Morph on Tarkir or double-faced cards on Innistrad, you don't *have* to make it 5-coloured. I'm not sure the Void mechanic is safe for the colour pie once used on non-5-coloured spells. I do really like the flavour of this card though, it's sort of a really appeasing end for Trabadart ^^
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/deaths-doorstep
@GodOfWar Really cool mechanic that sounds like there's a lot of intresting design space behind it The denial mechanic is supposed to be primary in White though this sounds more like a Blue/Black mechanic, but I promise I won't judge that ^^ On that specific card, don't you think Refusal (which prevents blocking) kind of "nonboes" with Deathtouch and First Strike which both need a fight to happen in order to actually be relevant?
Thanks for the feedback.
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/spirits-of-things-to-come
The distribution of the 5 stages of Loss & Grief among the 5 Magic colours was suggested to me by Mark Rosewater himself: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/144674364733/if-were-thinking-about-the-5-stages-of-loss-and