I think the rule just says that a spell on the stack is an illegal target for itself. So you'd need to have a valid target to cast Clusterfork and that's the spell that everyone copies. Similar to how you can't just cast Fork or Reverberate and copy itself for infinite copies.
(but we should probably be commenting on the card rather than on this thread!)
Liliana's Bequest by @MrRansom http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/lilianas-bequest ^This also seems a bit weak to be a mythic. I would choose Dark Ritual over this, if they are in same format. But you can use that additional cost to trigger some abilities or kill an opponent's creature that you control. That is interesting. It can be more powerful, but making it {0} is risky I think..
Dramatic Denouement by @ningyounk http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/dramatic-denouement ^I really like this, but it's basically the same as Final Fortune. But I think being blue is making this card better the Final Fortune. It's not the "fortune" card if you use it in the right way with a couple of draw spells. Also if you don't need it, you can exile this with Force of Will.
Kumbaya by @KoalaPatronus http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/kumbaya-1 ^I like the concept! I'm afraid that cantrip making this card a bit too powerful, but considering that you need to tap creatures, it might not be over powered. If it says "until end of turn", it is safer.
Martyr's Ceremony by @KoalaPatronus http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/martyrs-ceremony ^That additional cost is a bit color bending. Effect is very God-like, so I think flavor should be different. Reanimate ability is fun, but very dangerous.
Nightmare Visions by @Corwinnn ^It's a bit weak card. You lose 2 cards(This card and a creature), but your opponent doesn't lose anything on the battlefield/hand. Also it needs blue. As far as I can remember, black doesn't do lobotomy ability without blue.
Thunderswipe by @GhostOfVegeta http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/thunderswipe-1 ^It's super op card. Counterspell and Lightning Bolt combined. If the card does't target player, it's a creative design, but still very powerful. I think it should cost {2} more at least.
Unnatural Enlargement by @kltmtg29 http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/unnatural-enlargement ^It's situational and its drawback is death, but I think it's a bit too powerful. And you only cast this when you think you can win, so I think it's not so fun card.
Spell Warp by @KrampisZman http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/spell-warp-5 ^It should say "without paying its mana cost". If the opponent can't cast the copy, this is a Counterspell with cantrip. But very cool idea! I think it would be more interesting if it says "at the beginning of your next main phase". It is after your draw step, so you might can do more things before the copy is cast.
Monstrous Emerging by @LyndonF http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/monstrous-emerging ^Very interesting idea. I would play this in reanimate deck with powerful EtB ability creatures. That cantrip makes this card ten times fun because it makes you want to cast this spell even when you don't have good creature in your hand. But I think it should say "this turn". It doesn't cause memory issue and more realistic.
Huge thanks to all participants! This was a really interesting contest! And sorry if I'm wrong! We made many dangerous cards and it was very difficult to judge. But I really enjoyed this!
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I left my test name in my entry prior! Very un-professional.
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@Everyone thanks for cool cards!
But some of them are just simply broken. Additional cost and drawback are very important!
Do cards without mana costs count?
I didn't think of that. Ok it counts!
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/dire-situation-1
Yes you should!
I hope not. Isn't there a rule that spells can't target themselves?
@Everyone: Does this seem balanced?
Crap. Only mono-colored.
It isn't doing the targeting really? Each player is copying a target.
I guess it's still the source of the target?
I think the rule just says that a spell on the stack is an illegal target for itself. So you'd need to have a valid target to cast Clusterfork and that's the spell that everyone copies. Similar to how you can't just cast Fork or Reverberate and copy itself for infinite copies.
(but we should probably be commenting on the card rather than on this thread!)
I wasn't going to enter this, but then I saw Sakashima the Impostor and got inspired. Thanks, Sakashima the Impostor!
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/monstrous-emerging
Grasp Apon the Infinite by @mtgwizard9003
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/grasp-apon-the-infinite
^I like how the art fits concept, but this is just a way better version of Death Wish. Using high rarity is not the way to balance the card.
Cease and Feast by @Faiths_Guide
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/cease-and-feast
^Very nice and neat, but I think this is a bit weak to be a mythic.
Liliana's Bequest by @MrRansom
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/lilianas-bequest
^This also seems a bit weak to be a mythic. I would choose Dark Ritual over this, if they are in same format. But you can use that additional cost to trigger some abilities or kill an opponent's creature that you control. That is interesting. It can be more powerful, but making it {0} is risky I think..
Cheery Barter by @Faiths_Guide
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/barter-proposition
^Very fun! But it becomes very unfair card in multiplayer game. I don't know what color this should be, but I feel like it should be blue.
Tip the Scales by @booza22
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/tip-the-scales-1
^Very nice. It reminds me of Small Pox. I don't get the flavor of the card.. but it surely has a mythic aura!
Dramatic Denouement by @ningyounk
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/dramatic-denouement
^I really like this, but it's basically the same as Final Fortune. But I think being blue is making this card better the Final Fortune. It's not the "fortune" card if you use it in the right way with a couple of draw spells. Also if you don't need it, you can exile this with Force of Will.
Kumbaya by @KoalaPatronus
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/kumbaya-1
^I like the concept! I'm afraid that cantrip making this card a bit too powerful, but considering that you need to tap creatures, it might not be over powered. If it says "until end of turn", it is safer.
Martyr's Ceremony by @KoalaPatronus
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/martyrs-ceremony
^That additional cost is a bit color bending. Effect is very God-like, so I think flavor should be different. Reanimate ability is fun, but very dangerous.
Electrify by @KoalaPatronus
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/electrify-4
^Considering that it can also deal damage to player and give you energy counters, I think it's better than Lightning Bolt.
Forest's Light by @kltmtg29
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/forests-light
^Beautiful card, but it is very overpowered. At least it should have some cost to return it to your hand.
Nightmare Visions by @Corwinnn
^It's a bit weak card. You lose 2 cards(This card and a creature), but your opponent doesn't lose anything on the battlefield/hand. Also it needs blue. As far as I can remember, black doesn't do lobotomy ability without blue.
Thunderswipe by @GhostOfVegeta
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/thunderswipe-1
^It's super op card. Counterspell and Lightning Bolt combined. If the card does't target player, it's a creative design, but still very powerful. I think it should cost {2} more at least.
One Second After by @Shagoth
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/one-second-after
^It's crazy enough to be a mythic. I would build EtB ability deck around this!
AEther Counter by @BraveJRL
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/aether-counter
^Super op card! Check out KJM's comment on your card.
Darker Deal by @modnation675
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/darker-deal-1
^Black counter spell.. but I think it's unique enough to break color pie! Additional cost can be also good if you use this in a right deck.
Unnatural Enlargement by @kltmtg29
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/unnatural-enlargement
^It's situational and its drawback is death, but I think it's a bit too powerful. And you only cast this when you think you can win, so I think it's not so fun card.
Ascetic Teachings by @Animist
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/ascetic-teachings
^Simple yet original idea.
Dire Situation by @Martron200
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/dire-situation-1
^Awesome concept! I think suspend cost is a bit too cheap. But I like demonic flavor!
Spell Warp by @KrampisZman
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/spell-warp-5
^It should say "without paying its mana cost". If the opponent can't cast the copy, this is a Counterspell with cantrip. But very cool idea! I think it would be more interesting if it says "at the beginning of your next main phase". It is after your draw step, so you might can do more things before the copy is cast.
Clusterfork by @Animist
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/clusterfork
^I really like the mechanic, but I think it should cost more. You can copy Fireblast two times for only 3 mana.
Monstrous Emerging by @LyndonF
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/monstrous-emerging
^Very interesting idea. I would play this in reanimate deck with powerful EtB ability creatures. That cantrip makes this card ten times fun because it makes you want to cast this spell even when you don't have good creature in your hand. But I think it should say "this turn". It doesn't cause memory issue and more realistic.
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-Result-
1st place -
Ascetic Teachings by @Animist
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/ascetic-teachings
2nd place -
Kumbaya by @KoalaPatronus
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/kumbaya-1
3rd place -
Darker Deal by @modnation675
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/darker-deal-1
(Edited) and
Call Upon the Ancient Guardian by @Flatfish
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/call-upon-the-ancient-guardian
- Honorable mention -
Dire Situation by @Martron200
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/dire-situation-1
^Amazing flavor!
One Second After by @Shagoth
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/one-second-after
Monstrous Emerging by @LyndonF
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/monstrous-emerging
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Huge thanks to all participants! This was a really interesting contest! And sorry if I'm wrong! We made many dangerous cards and it was very difficult to judge. But I really enjoyed this!
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This contest is closed
Edited:
I'M SO SORRY @Flatfish !!!
I forgot to mention your "Call Upon the Ancient Guardian"! I really like it, so I might have pressed favorite twice and it was removed from my favorite list!
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/call-upon-the-ancient-guardian
It could be in 3rd place, so I'm editing my comment. Please don't close this thread.
This contest is closed.