@ManaChrome Decks I would like to see: G/W Enchantress U/R Artifacts (Artificer Tribal Subtheme) Jund -1/-1 Counters Esper Embalm/Eternalize (Graveyard Value subtheme)
I like the themes you guys are suggesting so far, but how could they fit into the cardsmiths that we want to represent? Especially if we want to go with the Partner route...
Alright, so (let's imagine that) 10 cardsmiths are going to be represented with 5 decks, with 2 cardsmiths leading one precon. As to not have the partner commanders be useless if they aren't paired with their partner in the precon, let's have them care about the same theme in different ways. Like how Silas Ren and Akiri both support an artifact theme, but have drastically different playstyles if not paired with any other partner! (Think Stitcher Geralf and Ghoulcaller Gisa, doing different things with Zombies)
Let's take @KrampisZman 's example... In a U/R Artifact/Artificer playstyle, the Red partner can focus on sacrificing artifacts for damage and recurring artifacts, while the Blue partner can give abilities to certain artifacts, or making certain artifact tokens (like servos, thopters, or clues!). Among the two, the Red partner is a more focused artificer, focused on it's archetype. But the Blue partner, an Innistrad investigator, can lead a drastically different deck if it leads it's own army without any other partner commander!
Here's an actual talk on the cardsmiths topic...
Although we obviously want to include some of the most well known cardsmiths from tales of legend XD, we can also include some not so well known newcomers to the site...
@ManaChrome What if we went with 4 decks (as that is how WOTC will be doing EDH decks from now on) that each have 3 commanders. 1 "Face" commander (like Atraxa, Breya, The Ur-Dragon, Freyalise, Etc.) and then a partner pair. The Face commander would be focused on the main theme, and would be the simplest option for the decks. Then, the partners would still work well with the main theme of the deck, but might explore a subtheme or demand a slightly different build to reach their full potential.
For example, in a Jund -1/-1 Counters deck, we would have our main Three color Jund commander who synergizes well with adding or removing -1/-1 counters.
Then, our partners would have slightly different themes. Maybe we would have a B/R commander who gives our creatures with counters some sort of ability (like flying, shadow, first strike, deathtouch, infect, etc.) and then a G/B commander who lets us put counters on our creatures for value like BG, Put a -1/-1 counter on two target creatures you control: draw a card.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Partners, from my experience they have been kinda clunky with the exception of Kydele and Vial Smasher, but I think they could be fun if they are done right.
@KrampisZman Ah, well, I understand if you aren't fully supportive of the idea, a "main" commander with two supporting partners sounds good if the partner idea flops or if people would like the traditional way precons should be built
And I guess now we actually want to think about what commanders (and possible) commanders we should feature... Lemme look at the people I follow lol... Corwinnn, Faiths_Guide, modnation675, TheFriendlyGeek and a couple of others... and I know that there are these amazing smiths that were active before I was on, and maybe a bunch of the talented smiths that are new to the site
I'm fairly new, but I'm not great. I certainly have my higher points. If you want, you could make an R->B Noki->Skaur flip card out of me. I'll add some other contribution to this thread by the end of the week.
I'll have what the @NokiSkaur is having, @ManaChrome - one flip card, but with a legend on one side and a Tezzeret 'walker on the other. I'll try to help this thread.
This set sounds REALLLLLLLY sweet! I'm one of the favored members. The oldies back in Animist's day would know me because I started back then when I was 11 or 12 years old. I am thirteen verging onto fourteen on September 16 and have been loving making cards since I was 11 making crappy vanilla hybrid cards with evergreen keywords.
I have grown in my smithery and I love the community on here. If only I had more time for mtgcardsmith. I'm a freshman now, so I have school and I'm also on the high school football team (wide receiver if you are wondering). This gives me only a little margin of time when I get home to practice my competitive magic, check my social media, and hang with friends.
Mtgcardsmith is now more of a "do this if I have nothing else to do" kind of thing. I want to be more involved however then the past year of being idle.
If you would like to nominate me, here are my Magic stats and likings:
- I like prison decks, control decks, combo decks, walkers, and burn. - I dislike decks that rely on their creatures, things like Kiki-Chord, Infect - This doesn't mean I dislike swarm decks like a squirrel deck. In fact I love swarm decks and creature decks. Just not decks that NEED specific creatures to win.
- Favorite Tribe: WARRIORS
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Enough about me. Who do I nominate?
Animist!!!!!!!!
Can I nominate a user that is not active? I hope so because this cardsmith legend DESERVES to have a custom commander for this set!
I think right now we should settle on what our five (or four) main commander's should be... Because at least that way, we would get to know what our main themes/playstyles would be, so that we can have our other "supporting/partner" commanders to follow those playstyles!
On a side note, what should the color identity of our commanders be? We could have a bunch of decks with different amounts of colors, a monocolored deck, a guild-colored deck, a wedge-colored deck, a four color deck, and a five color deck! (We should probably only do the first for since 5 colored decks are hard to make, and I think alot of people are already happy with Ramos as a 5-color commander :P)
Also can I have a list of our possible cardsmiths? I'd like volunteers, in case anyone isn't comfortable with being in the spotlight :P So far, we have... -Corwinn -Faiths_Guide -modnation675 -Nokiskaur -Lujikul -Karmadragon -TheFriendlyGeek -TezzeretofCarmot21
And can I also have a "my mtg personality" description from everyone so that I know what I'm working with? Like what TheFriendlyGeek did a while back? And also a nominee from everyone? Thanks
I really like the idea of partner commanders! Here are a couple of random ideas:
Gel-Ectrode, Izzet Chemist (credit to @Corwinnn!) 2UR Legendary creature - Human Wizard At the beginning of your upkeep, create a 0/1 red and blue Weird creature token with "{t}, This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player" and "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, untap this creature.
Partner (1/2)
@Corwinnn, Squirrel Nestlord 3GG Legendary creature - Human Squirrel Whenever a Forest enters the battlefield under your control, create a 1/1 green Squirrel creature token.
Partner (4/4)
Archmage @Beeswax 1RGUB Legendary Creature - Avatar Wizard Whenever you would draw a card, discard a card, then reveal the top three cards of your library. You may put up to one permanent and up to one nonpermanent card revealed this way into your hand. Put the rest onto the bottom of your library in any order.
Partner (2/5)
Faith, Guider of Souls (@Faiths_Guide) 2WW Legendary Creature - Angel Flying, vigilance Whenever you cast another white spell, you create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token and gain 1 life.
Partner (3/3)
@Animist, Channeler of Murasa 3GU Legendary Creature - Elf Druid At the beginning of your upkeep, you may create a token that's a copy of target permanent you control with converted mana cost 6 or greater.
Partner (4/3)
Mana-Chromed Arbiter (@ManaChrome) WUBRG Legendary artifact creature - Golem Other creatures get +1/+1 for each of its colors.
{t}: Exile target creature with power 5 or less.
Partner
@KrampisZman, Baron of Bidoofs BB Legendary creature - Bidoof Demon 2BB, Sacrifice a non-Bidoof creature: Create a 3/3 black Bidoof creature token, then target opponent loses life equal to the number of Bidoofs you control.
Partner (3/1)
@0wlb0y, Avian Ascendant 2WU Legendary creature - Human Bird Flying At the beginning of combat on your turn, up to X creatures you control gain flying until end of turn, where X is the number of creatures you control with flying.
@Tomigon, Student of Shadows 2UB Legendary creature - Human Ninja Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, target creature gains deathtouch, hexproof, or unblockable until end of turn
Partner (3/3)
The Friendly Geek (@TheFriendlyGeek) 1GWU Legendary creature - Human Shaman As long as each player's hand size is greater than five, creatures you control get +2/+2
{t}: Target player draws a card.
Partner (1/5)
Modnation of the 675th Precinct (@modnation675) 3WR Legendary creature - Human Soldier Haste Whenever a creature you control attacks, that creature gets +1/+1 until the beginning of your next turn. Untap it.
Partner (2/3)
Mister Ransom (@MrRansom) 1UBR Legendary creature - Human Rogue {t}: Exchange control of two nonland permanents that don't share a type for as long as you control Mister Ransom.
Partner (2/2)
Grant, Smith of Worlds (@mtgcardsmith) WWUUBBRRGG Legendary creature - Avatar Vigilance, haste Whenever you cast a spell, create a custom card, then shuffle it into your deck. (5/5)
Comments
G/W Enchantress
U/R Artifacts (Artificer Tribal Subtheme)
Jund -1/-1 Counters
Esper Embalm/Eternalize (Graveyard Value subtheme)
that we want to represent? Especially if we want to go with the Partner route...
Alright, so (let's imagine that) 10 cardsmiths are going to be represented with 5 decks, with 2 cardsmiths leading one precon. As to not have the partner commanders be useless if
they aren't paired with their partner in the precon, let's have them care about the same theme in different ways. Like how Silas Ren and Akiri both support an artifact theme, but have drastically different playstyles if not paired with any other partner! (Think Stitcher Geralf and Ghoulcaller Gisa, doing different things with Zombies)
Let's take @KrampisZman 's example... In a U/R Artifact/Artificer playstyle, the Red partner can focus on sacrificing artifacts for damage and recurring artifacts, while the Blue partner can give abilities to certain artifacts, or making certain artifact tokens (like servos, thopters, or clues!). Among the two, the Red partner is a more focused artificer, focused on it's archetype. But the Blue partner, an Innistrad investigator, can lead a drastically different deck if it leads it's own army without any other partner commander!
Here's an actual talk on the cardsmiths topic...
Although we obviously want to include some of the most well known cardsmiths from tales of legend XD, we can also include some not so well known newcomers to the site...
For example, in a Jund -1/-1 Counters deck, we would have our main Three color Jund commander who synergizes well with adding or removing -1/-1 counters.
Then, our partners would have slightly different themes. Maybe we would have a B/R commander who gives our creatures with counters some sort of ability (like flying, shadow, first strike, deathtouch, infect, etc.) and then a G/B commander who lets us put counters on our creatures for value like BG, Put a -1/-1 counter on two target creatures you control: draw a card.
I'm personally not a huge fan of Partners, from my experience they have been kinda clunky with the exception of Kydele and Vial Smasher, but I think they could be fun if they are done right.
And there should be a Squirrel commander for you...
And I guess now we actually want to think about what commanders (and possible) commanders we should feature... Lemme look at the people I follow lol... Corwinnn, Faiths_Guide, modnation675, TheFriendlyGeek and a couple of others... and I know that there are these amazing smiths that were active before I was on, and maybe a bunch of the talented smiths that are new to the site
Would u do me...?
I'm fairly new, but I'm not great. I certainly have my higher points. If you want, you could make an R->B Noki->Skaur flip card out of me. I'll add some other contribution to this thread by the end of the week.
Buuuurrrrrrmmm! Brmburburmbuuuuuuurrrrm. Brumurmbuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrmmm!!!!!!
I would love to be apart of this! Maybe I could be a partner commander that deals with dragons and/or control somehow?
I have grown in my smithery and I love the community on here. If only I had more time for mtgcardsmith. I'm a freshman now, so I have school and I'm also on the high school football team (wide receiver if you are wondering). This gives me only a little margin of time when I get home to practice my competitive magic, check my social media, and hang with friends.
Mtgcardsmith is now more of a "do this if I have nothing else to do" kind of thing. I want to be more involved however then the past year of being idle.
If you would like to nominate me, here are my Magic stats and likings:
- Nahiri Balance in Modern (way more competitive then at first glance) : http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nahiri-balance-primer/
- Boros Burn in Modern
- KCI Trawler in Modern
- UB Gift in Standard
- Unesh EDH
My colors are MARDU!!!!
- I like prison decks, control decks, combo decks, walkers, and burn.
- I dislike decks that rely on their creatures, things like Kiki-Chord, Infect
- This doesn't mean I dislike swarm decks like a squirrel deck. In fact I love swarm decks and creature decks. Just not decks that NEED specific creatures to win.
- Favorite Tribe: WARRIORS
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Enough about me. Who do I nominate?
Animist!!!!!!!!
Can I nominate a user that is not active? I hope so because this cardsmith legend DESERVES to have a custom commander for this set!
Oh, and @Corwinnn you got to add the Partner keyword on there.
On a side note, what should the color identity of our commanders be? We could have a bunch of decks with different amounts of colors, a monocolored deck, a guild-colored deck, a wedge-colored deck, a four color deck, and a five color deck! (We should probably only do the first for since 5 colored decks are hard to make, and I think alot of people are already happy with Ramos as a 5-color commander :P)
Also can I have a list of our possible cardsmiths? I'd like volunteers, in case anyone isn't comfortable with being in the spotlight :P So far, we have...
-Corwinn
-Faiths_Guide
-modnation675
-Nokiskaur
-Lujikul
-Karmadragon
-TheFriendlyGeek
-TezzeretofCarmot21
And can I also have a "my mtg personality" description from everyone so that I know what I'm working with? Like what TheFriendlyGeek did a while back? And also a nominee from everyone? Thanks
Gel-Ectrode, Izzet Chemist (credit to @Corwinnn!)
2UR
Legendary creature - Human Wizard
At the beginning of your upkeep, create a 0/1 red and blue Weird creature token with "{t}, This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player" and "Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, untap this creature.
Partner
(1/2)
@Corwinnn, Squirrel Nestlord
3GG
Legendary creature - Human Squirrel
Whenever a Forest enters the battlefield under your control, create a 1/1 green Squirrel creature token.
Partner
(4/4)
Archmage @Beeswax
1RGUB
Legendary Creature - Avatar Wizard
Whenever you would draw a card, discard a card, then reveal the top three cards of your library. You may put up to one permanent and up to one nonpermanent card revealed this way into your hand. Put the rest onto the bottom of your library in any order.
Partner
(2/5)
Faith, Guider of Souls (@Faiths_Guide)
2WW
Legendary Creature - Angel
Flying, vigilance
Whenever you cast another white spell, you create a 1/1 white Spirit creature token and gain 1 life.
Partner
(3/3)
@Animist, Channeler of Murasa
3GU
Legendary Creature - Elf Druid
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may create a token that's a copy of target permanent you control with converted mana cost 6 or greater.
Partner
(4/3)
Mana-Chromed Arbiter (@ManaChrome)
WUBRG
Legendary artifact creature - Golem
Other creatures get +1/+1 for each of its colors.
{t}: Exile target creature with power 5 or less.
Partner
@KrampisZman, Baron of Bidoofs
BB
Legendary creature - Bidoof Demon
2BB, Sacrifice a non-Bidoof creature: Create a 3/3 black Bidoof creature token, then target opponent loses life equal to the number of Bidoofs you control.
Partner
(3/1)
@0wlb0y, Avian Ascendant
2WU
Legendary creature - Human Bird
Flying
At the beginning of combat on your turn, up to X creatures you control gain flying until end of turn, where X is the number of creatures you control with flying.
Partner
(3/3)
Hahah! *Applause*
2UB
Legendary creature - Human Ninja
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, target creature gains deathtouch, hexproof, or unblockable until end of turn
Partner
(3/3)
The Friendly Geek (@TheFriendlyGeek)
1GWU
Legendary creature - Human Shaman
As long as each player's hand size is greater than five, creatures you control get +2/+2
{t}: Target player draws a card.
Partner
(1/5)
Modnation of the 675th Precinct (@modnation675)
3WR
Legendary creature - Human Soldier
Haste
Whenever a creature you control attacks, that creature gets +1/+1 until the beginning of your next turn. Untap it.
Partner
(2/3)
Mister Ransom (@MrRansom)
1UBR
Legendary creature - Human Rogue
{t}: Exchange control of two nonland permanents that don't share a type for as long as you control Mister Ransom.
Partner
(2/2)
Grant, Smith of Worlds (@mtgcardsmith)
WWUUBBRRGG
Legendary creature - Avatar
Vigilance, haste
Whenever you cast a spell, create a custom card, then shuffle it into your deck.
(5/5)
Any others I may have missed?
I think you missed me, @Flatfish, and @Yururu.