COLONISERS: Season 2!!! (Colonisers of Edgerim)

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  • HeroKPHeroKP
    We need @AxNoodle @MemoryHead and @Lujikul

    And then I can grant territory!

    Deadline = aiming for Next Tuesday, but will extend to Wednesday if there are two or more people left that didn't post
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    edited March 2019
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    Needlessly complicated card coming your way...
  • HergusbergusHergusbergus
    @AxNoodle Wait, so..

    If I'm correct, for example, there are two dragons under your control, Blessing of Choice under your control, and four zombies and three merfolk under an opponent's control. If you cast a Murder on a zombie, then all zombies under that opponent's control are destroyed by Murder?
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    @HeroKP what do you use to make maps?
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    @Hergusbergus No.
  • HeroKPHeroKP
    @EnvyReaper

    Paintbrush, it's MS Paint but for Mac
  • HergusbergusHergusbergus
    @AxNoodle Hmm... Give me an example of what it does please.
  • MonkeyPirate2002MonkeyPirate2002
    @HergusBergus think of it as though any spell that targets @AxNoodle or any of his permanents will be redirected to another target of @AxNoodle 's choice. If you cast murder on one of his dragons, he can choose to redirect that spell onto one of your creatures instead.

    In my opinion the enchantment is overpowered, because its main effect protects itself from targeted removal. Enchantments are already hard to remove from the battlefield, and having stuff like Naturalize not working makes it unkillable. I think that its cost should be increased as well as have its effect only affect other permanents and its controller, so that other players actually have a chance to remove it.
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    edited March 2019
    @Monkeypirate2002 No.
    (That isn’t how it works either. How mysterious WoOoOOoo)
  • LujikulLujikul
    edited March 2019
    As it's written, the card basically lets you pull a sneaky and change the target of your own spell to another legal target, except since it uses the word choose, you can also use it on hexproof creatures. So you can target some random creature, and then pull a switcheroo and make it so the spell affects your opponent's bogle instead.

    This also allows you to get past cards like leyline of sanctity in a similar manner.
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    edited March 2019
    @AxNoodle isn't that op? Wouldn't that allow you to target Progenitus?
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    @AxNoodle
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    You see that bottom part? If you were to, say, kill someone's Progenitus somehow, you can use your card, take its revival ability and apply it to you, which would effectively give you someone's Progenitus, case closed way too op
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    @AxNoodle or if this was not the case, it would allow you to effectively use a spell that, say, switches a creature's sides, let me pull up an example,
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    It would allow you to, again, take someone's Progenitus
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    bump
  • HeroKPHeroKP
    30 hours for @Lujikul and @MemoryHead !
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    But isn't @AxNoodle's card still way too op?, doesn't it basically allow you to target Progenitus?
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    I am pretty sure I proved it
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    @EnvyReaper @Lujikul You are partly right. What happens is that instead of targeting things, you choose them instead. So yes, it can target Progenitus, but it isn’t that op.
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    @AxNoodle when Progenitus was made TO have protection against everything (Except spells that don't specifically target anything) and you have something that basically bypasses that for only 4 CMC then yes, it is op
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    @EnvyReaper I have never been in a game with Progenitus.
  • pjbear2005pjbear2005
    @AxNoodle Same, it's more common to see an Ur-Dragon
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    @AxNoodle look at the card, Progenitus is a way to scale a card, if your card allows anything to happen to Progenitus, like say if something allowed you to take someone's Progenitus, it is op, look at the card
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    edited March 2019
    @EnvyReaper Why does that make it op? If no progenitus is played, nothing happens. If a creature with hexproof isn’t cast, nothing happens. I am in a playgroup where hexproof, let alone Progenitus, happens hardly at all, and so from my perspective it isn’t even that good. If this was a real card, unless in a very specific meta, it will hardly be played.
    Just because it hates on one, large costed, not often played card, I don’t see how it can be op.
  • HergusbergusHergusbergus
    @EnvyReaper I’m pretty sure @AxNoodle made that card to negate my Absolute Isolation. If not, then it’s whatever. If so, then it’s opening the counteract loop again which I was trying to avoid.
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    edited March 2019
    @Hergusbergus Yes and no.
    (It isn't part of that loop, I am not trying to start that again)
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    Because it allows you to bypass restrictions @AxNoodle! doesn't matter if something is or isn't played
  • HeroKPHeroKP
    @Lujikul @MemoryHead

    24 hours and counting!
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    @EnvyReaper
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    This card is hardly played at all.
  • EnvyReaperEnvyReaper
    edited March 2019
    @AxNoodle
    Yeah but not with Progenitus, he doesn't have Keyword Soup, he has protection from everything, which does make your card op when progenitus can only be damaged by cards that, say, doesn't target creatures, like board wipes, now you have a card that bypasses that restriction, and that is a huge no-go, also it is very impractical because as you just said this card will adversely affect creatures with Hexproof, though you just said they don't get played often, and since this card is a target switcharoo, there is really no reason to play this card at all
  • AxNoodleAxNoodle
    edited March 2019
    @EnvyReaper Is Progenitus your commander in one of your decks? I feel like you are defending it fiercely.

    Wait one second!
    Do you understand that it only changes when your stuff targets?
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