I had an idea... for a 1,000 card set

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  • Selesnya vs Grixis?
  • We were talking about the name of the place, and we think we will call it "The Aether Archipelago."

    It will be a land card in the first large set, and then be the name of the second small set.

    Here is a proposal for the ability of the card:

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    Comment there if you would
  • edited January 2020
    Tribe Requests So Far


    Naya v Dimir @DrakeGladis
    Grixis v Selesnya @Leaf_Juggernaut
    Esper v Gruul
    Bant v Rakdos @AxNoodle
    Jund v Azorius


    Sultai v Boros @Scott_Anderson
    Abzan v Izzet @TheWanderer
    Temur v Orzhov @TheWanderer***
    Jeskai v Golgari
    Mardu v Simic @Scott_Anderson ***

    ***Listed Cardsmiths here are willing to give the spot to someone who has no spot

  • @Scott_Anderson I'll try to help by judging all the cards for Modern, Standard and other formats like commander.

    Aether Archipalago is a strictly worse version of Reflecting Pool.


    The most convenient way to make a legendary land that MTG has been using in the past years is to make it a colorless land with a great activated ability in the correct archetype (Hall of Heliod's Generosity, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Inventor's Fair, Nykthos Shrine to Nyx).
  • @Scott_Anderson also, regarding Antoneta le Guen, she is WAY too powerful and pretty much unprintable for the following reasons:


    1. She dodges Assassin's Trophy, Fatal Push, Dismember, Drown in the Loch and can't be blocked by Death's Shadow, all of which are extremely popular. It also dodges a turn-1 Thoughtsieze due to Flash.


    2. A free 3/3 can simply not be printed, especially when it pretty much has haste. Goblin Guide has much greater disadvantage as a 2/2 with haste that has no protection AND costs 1 mana AND isn't legal in Pioneer. Meanwhile, this card just asks you to pitch a Lava Spike or something and you have a 3/3.

    3. Flash makes it so that it can chump block Goblin Guide and Monastery Swiftspear, which would make the entire meta dissolve into "Mulligan obsessively for Antoneta le Guen while playing burn." because in of itself it beats burn.

    4. It can allow a turn-3 Burn Wins with even the most mediocre of hands when going second (T0 Flash in Antoneta, T1 Goblin Guide/Monastery, Then turn 2 a single Bolt, swing next turn for lethal.).

    5. WotC has promised to not print any more standard-legal Pitch Spells, and most free spells in standard end up getting banned and as such are a bad idea to print there.


    I'd say scrap the card and just make a non-pitch spell.
  • @Potato13 okay then!

    Can she still be pro black?
  • edited January 2020
    @ScottAnderson
    The cards I'm currently working on, i.e. Legion City, have so far been Blue/Red vs. Itself, but I think, given the nature of the Aurum Corporation, I can work Abzan into the cards. I'm not sure if I can properly pull off UR vs. WBG, but I could put the Corporation in Abzan colors on the basis of philosophy and practices - especially the WB - with a few cards leaking into UR.

    In short, I'll take Abzan vs. Izzet
  • And if no one else wants Temur vs. Orzhov, I still have the Nexus cards to work with, but I don't feel any particular need to work on two separate tribe conflicts.
  • What's the powerlevel of the set going to be?

    Because the power creep has really increased a significant amount the past few years.

    And it seems WOTC did this on purpose for whatever reason, which is a tad bit disappointing and lame.

    It was fine to me during Amonkhet and Ixalan, it was kind of natural increase after years of the same power level roughly. You gotta progress forward...

    But after looking at some of the cards in the most recent sets, it looks like its already increased and it's only been a couple of years!

    But that's just my current opinion. Maybe it's just my ignorance and nostalgia since I haven't played in years.

    Thoughts?
  • Shooting for Homelands
  • @Scott_Anderson I don't think it can be anti-black. Generally, the only way a creature with a multicolored combination can hose a certain color is by:

    1. Hosing the color which is the enemy colors to both of the allied colors.

    2. Hosing the card's own colors (typically reserved for B/W creatures)

    3. Hosing each color that isn't in its own colors (typically reserved for 3 color cards)

    4. Choosing a color to hose (typically reserved for U/W)


    As you can see, a W/R card fufills none of the requirements for hosing a color.
  • edited January 2020
    @Scott_Anderson
    Seems cool. I didn't grow up with older mtg cards but they seem fun. I can definitely try to make some.

    Lets see if other people are onboard for that power level.
  • @Leaf_Juggernaut I’m sorry that was a silly joke. Homelands was at a dismally low power level and additionally almost unplayable based on the strange collection of cards in it.
  • @Potato13, thank you for explaining that so well.

    I looked at my color pie spreadsheet and saw that white could have pro-black and didn’t put more thought into it than that.

    There are two other creature cards which represent her earlier in her life but this card is meant to be the apex of her power.

    I’ll keep thinking. The lore is coming to me subsequent to designing the cards, so there’s room to overhaul her main card (and there might be a 4th Antoneta creature card too... not sure yet)

  • @Scott_Anderson
    Lol. Gotcha now.

    No wonder. I was looking at the gatherer and some of the cards seemed kind of iffy. But, I figured it was an experiment :D
  • I would like to take the Bant faction please.
  • @leaf_juggernaut I don’t know the power level now versus where it was in 2016, which is the last time I competed regularly in paper Magic. The last set I know well is Dominaria.

    I think Origins hit a sweet spot. Khans block was okay but maybe a little high on the complexity scale. What do you think?
  • @Leaf_Juggernaut and @Ranshi would you like to explain the little bit of lore for us? Or I can give it a go and you can correct where I’m wrong.
  • edited January 2020
    I leave for the night and there is a page of new comments. Wow...

    First what is with the Naya v Dimir and stuff like that?
  • Sorry, @AxNoodle. When I make cards I look up random art and try to take inspiration from it.
  • Azorius vs. Dimir?
  • @EnvyReaper, Azorius vs. Gruul makes more sense, but I think we are currently doing Boros vs. Sultai.
  • @Leaf_Juggernaut, me neither. I litteraly started playing MTG last year.
  • Everyone,

    What Leaf, Ranshi and I propose is that there are ten little stories and each Cardsmith would handle one or more of them.

    In each story, the main conflict would be between a three-color faction and a two-color faction where all five colors are represented.

    The fiction behind this is thin but all of these little stories will happen in the same plane and within solar-system scale travel distance of one another. There are 15 "island planets" floating in the aether near one another. Five are dominated by one color of mana. The other ten have all colors but they are each in conflict. You will tell the story of one of those ten conflicts.

    There is not overarching story so don't worry about interfering with someone else too much.

    We have decided that most mechanics are okay to use, with the exception of those meant for multiplayer or Conspiracy etc.

    We will do our best to enforce color pie conformity.



    The latest assignments are like this:

    Naya v Dimir @DrakeGladis
    Grixis v Selesnya @Leaf_Juggernaut
    Esper v Gruul
    Bant v Rakdos @AxNoodle
    Jund v Azorius


    Sultai v Boros @Scott_Anderson
    Abzan v Izzet @TheWanderer
    Temur v Orzhov @TheWanderer***
    Jeskai v Golgari
    Mardu v Simic @Scott_Anderson ***

    ***Listed Cardsmiths here are willing to give the spot to someone who has no spot


    So think up a two-faction pair as listed above and then think up a little story that you can represent in cards. It does not have to be perfect or extensive. Just something simple like "cowboys and indians" or "pirates versus superheroes"

    For instance I'm doing "crusaders versus druids" more or less, and specifically the life of one general in that conflict.
  • Hold on, I'm Grixis though, so shouldn't I be in charge of that conflict?
  • edited January 2020
    Right now the way things stand for the first set, A, named Gaifal, is like this:

    Each Color
    12 commons
    10 uncommons
    8 rares

    Rakdos
    2 common hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Selesnya
    2 common hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Gruul
    2 common hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Dimir
    2 common hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Azorius
    2 common hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Golgari
    1 common gold
    2 uncommon hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Simic
    1 common gold
    2 uncommon hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Boros
    1 common gold
    2 uncommon hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Orzhov
    1 common gold
    2 uncommon hybrid
    1 uncommon gold

    Abzan
    1 rare creature
    1 rare instant
    1 rare sorcery
    1 rare enchantment

    Temur
    1 rare creature
    1 rare instant
    1 rare sorcery
    1 rare enchantment

    Jeskai
    1 rare creature
    1 rare instant
    1 rare sorcery
    1 rare enchantment

    Mardu
    1 rare creature
    1 rare instant
    1 rare sorcery
    1 rare enchantment

    Sultai
    1 rare creature
    1 rare instant
    1 rare sorcery
    1 rare enchantment

    Artifacts
    2 common vehicles
    3 uncommon vehicles
    3 rare vehicles
    7 uncommon artifacts
    5 rare artifacts

    Lands
    1 uncommon land
    2 rare lands
    20 basic lands

    ALSO
    Each cardsmith gets 1 Mythic slot

    Small sets A2 and A3 will give a different mix of cards. With luck I will be able to get each faction the same number of cards and the same mix of rarities.

    Set B1 (unnamed large set) will be a mirror image of A1. B2 and B3 will mirror A2 and A3.

    I'm still working out the slots for the small sets.

    Here is the current card slot document:

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1BnhSRV88l1vWkxMvMrqfQ9Ib4PUNqFKI/view?usp=sharing

    Sets A2 and B3 will mirror and sets A3 and B2 will mirror.
  • If anyone needs a Dimir or Azorius faction I have some!
  • @ScottAnderson, on which are we including the Grixis island? I noticed that there are some of the 3 color combos in this first one...
  • @ranshi I made a transcription error. You will find the updated spreadsheet at the same link. Grixis has four rare slots in block B1.

    It will have uncommon slots in two of the small sets but I haven't got them sorted out yet.

    And of course you can use monocolors, hybrids and two-color golds to tell your story too.
  • @Ranshi I can give you grixis vs. Selesnya if you want it. I know you like grixis.

    I'm fine with giving it up. I'm sure you'll do a better job since I'm not a huge grixis fan.

    I just kind of like Selesnya since it's the first guild I ever played with.
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