Your activatable ability is treated as if it's a spell. When activated, it's put onto the stack. You may activate it anytime as if you could cast an instant.
You cannot activate ability to sacifice it as it is destroyed by a spell or damage from any source when they "resolves".
Fighting are somewhat same as Attacking/Blocking, the difference is fighting creature attacks target creature rather than player itself. Fighting fails, if that target creature leaves the battlefield before it resolves. You cannot apply that logic to the combat step.
The attacking creature that been blocked by a creature you control assigns combat damage to you, if that blocking creature was removed from battlefield by any meanings before combat damage is dealt (Before resolve).
You can't sacrifice any creatures that been destroyed by combat damage after the damage step.
@FireOfGolden@smax765 is correct, but their analogy is very wrong. Since players receive priority during the declare blockers step, after blockers are declared, a player can act (in particular do things like sacrifice blocking creatures) before moving to any combat damage steps, but this does not change the 'blocked' status of the creature(s) that they blocked. See rules 509.1h and 509.4 regarding the declare blockers step, then rule 510.1c regarding the combat damage step.
509.1h An attacking creature with one or more creatures declared as blockers for it becomes a blocked creature; one with no creatures declared as blockers for it becomes an unblocked creature. This remains unchanged until the creature is removed from combat, an effect says that it becomes blocked or unblocked, or the combat phase ends, whichever comes first. A creature remains blocked even if all the creatures blocking it are removed from combat.
509.4. Fourth, the active player gets priority. (See rule 117, “Timing and Priority.”)
510.1c A blocked creature assigns its combat damage to the creatures blocking it. If no creatures are currently blocking it (if, for example, they were destroyed or removed from combat), it assigns no combat damage. …
1) Not Panda declares itself as an attacker. 2) Smax765 declares 1/1 sliver creature token as a blocker 3) Not Panda becomes blocked by Sliver 4) Smax765 sacrifices Sliver
What happens on 5 step? Will Smax765 takes damage from Not Panda or Not Panda deals damage to dead creature after it's sacrificed?
As per 510.1c, Not Panda would attempt to assign combat damage to the creatures blocking it, but since there are currently no creatures remaining to do so, it assigns no combat damage and combat continues as otherwise normal. (Effectively, Not Panda does nothing since it doesn't have any relevant abilities like trample.)
@cadstar369 So it's like redirecting a spell from creature to another creature and it becomes illegal target when that creature is removed from battlefield? Gotcha.
Blockings situations are actually very far from that analogy, since spells simply don't resolve when all of their targets are illegal, but blocked creatures can still be effective even when their blockers vanish if abilities like trample or abilities that care about being blocked are in play. In this specific case though, since the Not Panda has no relevant abilities, it does look similar to what you've described.
Battle Report: 1) You casts Sliver's Strike on yourself. 1.1) As it enters the battlefield, it creates a 1/1 Sliver creature token. 1.2) Your power/toughness been increased to 2/2. 2) You attacks Not Panda 2.1) Hidden Effect been triggered! 2.2) Not Panda dodges your attack (chance to dodge was 10%; chance may vary depending on creatures) as result your combat damage been prevented this turn. 3) Your turn ends as enemy's turn begins. 4) Not Panda casts Bear's Rampage on itself. 4.1) It gains +2/+2 until end of turn. 5) Not Panda attacks you for 3 damage. 5.1) 1/1 Sliver token blocks Not Panda. 5.11) You sacifice Sliver to gain a mana 5.12) You now have two mana total. 5.13) Sliver token dies 5.2) Not Panda deals 3 damage to dead Sliver 6) Bear's Rampage deals 1 damage to Not Panda. 6.1) Not Panda's ability been triggered for first time. 6.2) Not Panda puts a rage counter on itself and it gets +2/+0. Its power/toughness is now 3/1. 7) Your turn begins. 7.1) Any extra mana been removed all way to the maximum of your mana. You have one mana left now.
1.1) As it enters the battlefield, it creates a 1/1 Sliver creature token.
1.2) Your power/toughness been increased to 2/2.
2) You attacks Not Panda
2.1) Hidden Effect been triggered!
2.2) Not Panda dodges your attack (chance to dodge was 10%; chance may vary depending on creatures) as result your combat damage been prevented this turn.
3) Your turn ends as enemy's turn begins.
4) Not Panda casts Bear's Rampage on itself.
4.1) It gains +2/+2 until end of turn.
5) Not Panda attacks you for 3 damage.
5.1) 1/1 Sliver token blocks Not Panda.
5.11) You sacifice Sliver to gain a mana
5.12) You now have two mana total.
5.13) Sliver token dies
5.2) Not Panda deals 3 damage to dead Sliver
6) Bear's Rampage deals 1 damage to Not Panda.
6.1) Not Panda's ability been triggered for first time.
6.2) Not Panda puts a rage counter on itself and it gets +2/+0. Its power/toughness is now 3/1.
7) Your turn begins.
7.1) Any extra mana been removed all way to the maximum of your mana. You have one mana left now. 8) You casts Sliver's Strike on yourself. 8.1) 1/1 Sliver token was created this way 8.2) Stacks with another Sliver's Strike; your power/toughness are now 3/3. 9) You attacks Not Panda for 3 damage. 10) Not Panda takes 3 damage then dies.
Battle Results: You earned 8 exp, bear's claw, and a raw meat!
@smax765 As you explore the forest, you would see a tiniest light coming from the distance as you could smell the wood smoke. You then walk to get closer to what is inside, however, you got stuck on something sticky. As you look closer, it turns out that it's a string - You been caught in web!
You have two actions left before something on web notices you and approaches you.
You may; - Cast Sliver's Strike on you - Scream for help - Do else...
@kaoz42@cadstar369 Figure would goes in undamaged camp to sleep while Fen jumps onto its nest to rest. It is up to Ogam and Ugragos to determine who will stay up and watch the camp for first hour to prevent being ambushed by unwanted guests. If they prefer to sleep rather than guarding, then so let it be.
For each party member, you may; - Sleep through night - Be on guard - Do else
@smax765 Then you cry for help into the darkness. A shadow would arrives to you on the web - it sees you as its prey. As you take a closer look, it's a giant spider!
Battle Report: 1) All creatures that been summoned before the battle aren't affected by summon sickness. (They gain haste until end of turn.)
1.1) 1/1 sliver token is already on the battlefield, hence, isn't affected by summon sickness.
2) Tangled in Spider Web's effect doesn't end, hence, you must increase your power up to 3 to break freely. You remains tapped, however, because of your first strike, you will be still able to damage back.
3) Your turn begins.
@kaoz42@cadstar369 While on guard, Ogam could hear a faintly voice from the forest as Fen would brings its head up as it would looks at the forest where voice came from.
Meanwhile, Ugragos was too busy with meditating. Ogam may bother him to bring him with them, or he may go to the forest alone with Fen.
For Cadstar369 only; - Bring Ugragos with you - Hop into the forest alone (Fen will follow you) - Do else
Deathtouch (Deals damage in -1/-1 counters to character and companion, remove these counters at end of battle. Any amount of damage dealt to a minion is enough to destroy it.)
@smax765 Battle Report: 1) All creatures that been summoned before the battle aren't affected by summon sickness. (They gain haste until end of turn.) 1.1) 1/1 sliver token is already on the battlefield, hence, isn't affected by summon sickness.
2) Tangled in Spider Web's effect doesn't end, hence, you must increase your power up to 3 to break freely. You remains tapped, however, because of your first strike, you will be still able to damage back.
6) Giant Nightcrawler attacks you 6.1) It puts a -1/-1 counter on you as you deals 2 damage back to Giant Nightcrawler.
7) Giant Nightcrawler dies
Battle Result: You earned 4 exp and spider's leg.
LEVEL UP! Add one mana cost to your existing character then choose one; - Increase your power/toughness by 1 - Strength the existing ability - Add a new ability
As for your spell, you may choose one; - Add a new common spell that costs for 1 mana. - Rank up a spell you control. - Increase a spell by one mana cost.
You may overwrite your card to do this, however, color and race must remain same (Character only).
@cadstar369 So, then you decide to stay camp and guard. Now that you heard faintly voice, what shall you do with that?
- Ignore it. - Be on alert. - Do else.
@smax765 (Respond to this after you do something with your character/spells.) Now, that you defeated the giant spider, the light in distance is still there. What would you do?
Discarding a card (When discarding the number of cards, choose a spell you haven't chosen yet this turn. You can't cast that spell this turn. You may choose number of cards for companion, if it was targeted to discard a card. When an enemy discards a card, they may not cast it this turn. However, they may cast it next turn.)
Drawing a card (When drawing number of cards, choose any number of spells you own. You can cast that spell twice this turn. If you already casted that spell this turn, you can cast another. If you already discarded that card this turn, you can cast another. You may choose number of spells for companion, if it was targeted to draw a card. This way applies for the enemies.)
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Let me rephrase that;
Your activatable ability is treated as if it's a spell. When activated, it's put onto the stack. You may activate it anytime as if you could cast an instant.
You cannot activate ability to sacifice it as it is destroyed by a spell or damage from any source when they "resolves".
Fighting are somewhat same as Attacking/Blocking, the difference is fighting creature attacks target creature rather than player itself. Fighting fails, if that target creature leaves the battlefield before it resolves. You cannot apply that logic to the combat step.
The attacking creature that been blocked by a creature you control assigns combat damage to you, if that blocking creature was removed from battlefield by any meanings before combat damage is dealt (Before resolve).
You can't sacrifice any creatures that been destroyed by combat damage after the damage step.
So let me get straight to point.
1) Not Panda declares itself as an attacker.
2) Smax765 declares 1/1 sliver creature token as a blocker
3) Not Panda becomes blocked by Sliver
4) Smax765 sacrifices Sliver
What happens on 5 step? Will Smax765 takes damage from Not Panda or Not Panda deals damage to dead creature after it's sacrificed?
So it's like redirecting a spell from creature to another creature and it becomes illegal target when that creature is removed from battlefield? Gotcha.
Battle Report:
1) You casts Sliver's Strike on yourself.
1.1) As it enters the battlefield, it creates a 1/1 Sliver creature token.
1.2) Your power/toughness been increased to 2/2.
2) You attacks Not Panda
2.1) Hidden Effect been triggered!
2.2) Not Panda dodges your attack (chance to dodge was 10%; chance may vary depending on creatures) as result your combat damage been prevented this turn.
3) Your turn ends as enemy's turn begins.
4) Not Panda casts Bear's Rampage on itself.
4.1) It gains +2/+2 until end of turn.
5) Not Panda attacks you for 3 damage.
5.1) 1/1 Sliver token blocks Not Panda.
5.11) You sacifice Sliver to gain a mana
5.12) You now have two mana total.
5.13) Sliver token dies
5.2) Not Panda deals 3 damage to dead Sliver
6) Bear's Rampage deals 1 damage to Not Panda.
6.1) Not Panda's ability been triggered for first time.
6.2) Not Panda puts a rage counter on itself and it gets +2/+0. Its power/toughness is now 3/1.
7) Your turn begins.
7.1) Any extra mana been removed all way to the maximum of your mana. You have one mana left now.
Waiting for you
Battle Report:
8) You casts Sliver's Strike on yourself.
8.1) 1/1 Sliver token was created this way
8.2) Stacks with another Sliver's Strike; your power/toughness are now 3/3.
9) You attacks Not Panda for 3 damage.
10) Not Panda takes 3 damage then dies.
Battle Results:
You earned 8 exp, bear's claw, and a raw meat!
As you explore the forest, you would see a tiniest light coming from the distance as you could smell the wood smoke. You then walk to get closer to what is inside, however, you got stuck on something sticky. As you look closer, it turns out that it's a string - You been caught in web!
You have two actions left before something on web notices you and approaches you.
You may;
- Cast Sliver's Strike on you
- Scream for help
- Do else...
@kaoz42 @cadstar369
Figure would goes in undamaged camp to sleep while Fen jumps onto its nest to rest. It is up to Ogam and Ugragos to determine who will stay up and watch the camp for first hour to prevent being ambushed by unwanted guests. If they prefer to sleep rather than guarding, then so let it be.
For each party member, you may;
- Sleep through night
- Be on guard
- Do else
Ugragos meditates hard all through the night, concentrating on arcane knowledge.
Then I will be waiting for your response.
You used all of your mana to cast Sliver's Strike on you. A sliver token was created this way as you have one action left now.
Then you cry for help into the darkness. A shadow would arrives to you on the web - it sees you as its prey. As you take a closer look, it's a giant spider!
Battle Report:
1) All creatures that been summoned before the battle aren't affected by summon sickness. (They gain haste until end of turn.)
1.1) 1/1 sliver token is already on the battlefield, hence, isn't affected by summon sickness.
2) Tangled in Spider Web's effect doesn't end, hence, you must increase your power up to 3 to break freely. You remains tapped, however, because of your first strike, you will be still able to damage back.
3) Your turn begins.
@kaoz42 @cadstar369
While on guard, Ogam could hear a faintly voice from the forest as Fen would brings its head up as it would looks at the forest where voice came from.
Meanwhile, Ugragos was too busy with meditating. Ogam may bother him to bring him with them, or he may go to the forest alone with Fen.
For Cadstar369 only;
- Bring Ugragos with you
- Hop into the forest alone (Fen will follow you)
- Do else
Battle Report:
1) All creatures that been summoned before the battle aren't affected by summon sickness. (They gain haste until end of turn.)
1.1) 1/1 sliver token is already on the battlefield, hence, isn't affected by summon sickness.
2) Tangled in Spider Web's effect doesn't end, hence, you must increase your power up to 3 to break freely. You remains tapped, however, because of your first strike, you will be still able to damage back.
3) Your turn begins.
4) 1/1 sliver creature token attacks
4.1) Giant Nightcrawler takes 1 damage (1/2)
5) Your turn ends as enemy's turn begins.
6) Giant Nightcrawler attacks you
6.1) It puts a -1/-1 counter on you as you deals 2 damage back to Giant Nightcrawler.
7) Giant Nightcrawler dies
Battle Result:
You earned 4 exp and spider's leg.
LEVEL UP!
Add one mana cost to your existing character then choose one;
- Increase your power/toughness by 1
- Strength the existing ability
- Add a new ability
As for your spell, you may choose one;
- Add a new common spell that costs for 1 mana.
- Rank up a spell you control.
- Increase a spell by one mana cost.
You may overwrite your card to do this, however, color and race must remain same (Character only).
So, then you decide to stay camp and guard. Now that you heard faintly voice, what shall you do with that?
- Ignore it.
- Be on alert.
- Do else.
@smax765
(Respond to this after you do something with your character/spells.)
Now, that you defeated the giant spider, the light in distance is still there. What would you do?
- Go toward light
- Go away from light
- Do else
Oh also, you may add another color to your character.
Meanwhile, Ugragos arises from his meditation and gets ready for a tough fight.
Drawing a card (When drawing number of cards, choose any number of spells you own. You can cast that spell twice this turn. If you already casted that spell this turn, you can cast another. If you already discarded that card this turn, you can cast another. You may choose number of spells for companion, if it was targeted to draw a card. This way applies for the enemies.)