I know above comment doesn't flow with the philosophical conversation, but please read the story before looking at the card. It will make understanding the card so much easier.
If I may. In my perspective, people have been created with the capacity to be noble and to do good, but sometimes we fall back on our animalistic instincts and end up making immoral choices. No one is inherently evil; they've just been giving in to their base desires and impulses and ignoring their positive potential. That being said, when I look at the world around me and I see all the suffering and strife caused by people with absolutely wretched intentions, it's hard to see the world in a positive light. Which is why I am not an optimist; I am a realist, who looks at the actions people take while doing my best not to look at them in a positive or negative bias. But that's just me; back to morality. Morality seems to be different across each unique individual in the world, each with different standards and different tolerances for actions. And while there are some gray areas (which is why I find antiheroes so interesting), there is a point where someone can be ignoring their good side enough to become evil, especially when they never look back.
@AustinSmith I find it deeply offensive that you linked "Animalistic instinct" and "immoral choices". However, because I decided to look the word up, you're right. Damn it.
@kauyon My analogy of the Mormon was just that- an analogy. However, have you ever read the Bible? As much as I like what you said there, it rarely goes out of its way to define sin outside of Leviticus... the book of punishments, as it were, and many of the listed crimes were metaphors. Other than that literal interpretation of what you said, I agree with you completely.
Maybe I should stop continuing this conversation...
I would have better luck teaching pigs to fly, lions to become vegans or teaching sheep what goes in a shepherds pie. It is easy to spout off morality that contributes to the well-being of your own society and creates a world where you and your family have safety and security. It is easy to regurgitate rhetoric that assures you that there will be bread, eggs and milk at your local grocery store. That you can get gasoline at your local convienence store and summer blockbusters in the theatre.
Just like the banking system of capatalism, the human race has decided it's too big to fail. "By the power of Greendollar, I am Hu-Man!!"
@fabiocbinbutted you need to specify "must be blocked if able." Rather than just "must be blocked" since that runs into an issue if there's nothing to block it.
On a scale of Satan to God, what is a human? Once you pull your perspective back far enough, all of mankind and all their morals and machinations blur together and become the same, until all you see is just people killing each other somewhere in the middle.
I'm loving the cards and discussion on this thread! But I've got to announce winners sometime, so the deadline will be when either the 29th rolls around or if this thread develops its third page; whichever comes first.
Before this thread is closed, I really want to make this contribution. It is from Vsauce, and if you choose not to watch it based on your opinion of me, then you are only doing yourself a disservice.
So my whole arguement is quite unoriginal it seems. I found an old Watchmen comic book that said it long ago, almost exactly as I was seeing the theory in my own thoughts. Be warned this is dark material and the old Watchmen comics are pretty disturbing, so read at your own risk.
This was a tough challenge to decide, but I've reached my decision. Thanks to everyone who participated, and extra thanks to those who indulged in philosophy!
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http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/hall-harbinger-of-death
In my perspective, people have been created with the capacity to be noble and to do good, but sometimes we fall back on our animalistic instincts and end up making immoral choices. No one is inherently evil; they've just been giving in to their base desires and impulses and ignoring their positive potential.
That being said, when I look at the world around me and I see all the suffering and strife caused by people with absolutely wretched intentions, it's hard to see the world in a positive light. Which is why I am not an optimist; I am a realist, who looks at the actions people take while doing my best not to look at them in a positive or negative bias. But that's just me; back to morality.
Morality seems to be different across each unique individual in the world, each with different standards and different tolerances for actions. And while there are some gray areas (which is why I find antiheroes so interesting), there is a point where someone can be ignoring their good side enough to become evil, especially when they never look back.
@kauyon My analogy of the Mormon was just that- an analogy. However, have you ever read the Bible? As much as I like what you said there, it rarely goes out of its way to define sin outside of Leviticus... the book of punishments, as it were, and many of the listed crimes were metaphors. Other than that literal interpretation of what you said, I agree with you completely.
Maybe I should stop continuing this conversation...
Just like the banking system of capatalism, the human race has decided it's too big to fail. "By the power of Greendollar, I am Hu-Man!!"
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/porcelain-genresha
I decided to go straight forward and made a phyrexian. I made Genresha up because I couldn't find any reference to a leader of the Porcelain Legion.
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/kozath-undead-protector
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/the-untouchable
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/maleks-blackguard
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/baalzebub?list=user
So if someone is a Satanist, then Baalzebub is good, everything is perspective.
On a scale of Satan to God, what is a human? Once you pull your perspective back far enough, all of mankind and all their morals and machinations blur together and become the same, until all you see is just people killing each other somewhere in the middle.
this is true, but I'm just putting it in a different perspective.
Janis, Guardian of Heroes
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/janis-guardian-of-heroes
http://explodingcanon.blogspot.com/2012/02/hold-on-this-is-comic-why-am-i.html?m=1
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/xandra-exploiter-of-agony
3rd place: Archithrax, Hero Returned by Nicholas_Bolas http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/archithrax-hero-returned
2nd place: Meredith, Faith's Blade by Animist http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/meredith-faiths-blade
1st place: Sorya, Embittered Veteran by MrRansom http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/sorya-embittered-veteran
Thanks again everyone!
It was a pleasure to see all the entries and to design a card for this contest.