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Ozorion, the Harlem Music-Based Set - VISION DESIGN PHASE
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If the idea of the rhythm thing actually picks up, here are a few additional comments on this concept:
Thanks for the thoughts! I'll definitely look into the unstable contraptions for balance and creativity.
- About keeping everything on one side of the card: I think the easiest way to do that would be to use the level text: I'm just not sure if it's appropriate to use it for another mechanic like Harmonize:
It seems pretty smooth, and I don't see a way to avoid mentioning the word "level," so maybe it could work? It would certainly help to arrange the cards as well, because double-sided cards often have difficult display patterns. Like you mentioned, this would also help the players keep track of the creatures more easily.
If we just kept the double sided cards, perhaps they would flip at different times other than your upkeep? We would need some kind of pattern here; Werewolves are a good example.
I'm honestly liking the upkeep shift a lot... I think it will help balance the game and not get too obsessive with end steps, ect. I also like the "on transform" triggers, with one being better than the other.
Why not use Evoke if you're going for a creature/modal/"multiface" spell sort of setup?
Like Shadow said, the evoke thing wouldn't really capture the whole rhythm theme. We also need a new, flashy mechanic like mutate, and the double sided cards are sure to fit that slot.
However, we do need a new name for the mechanic, as the ability has kind of fallen out of place for that name. Harmonize could actually be a better name for the mechanic that Shadow suggested, with the animate until end of turn effect.
Synchronize? Some play on "beat? I'd be happy for suggestions!
Sforzando
While I do like Rhythm, I feel like we need some kind of play on it, instead of just the word "Rhythm" as the mechanic name.
Who knows though, maybe it could work! Does this not seems awkward to anyone else?
Do you think this would work?
I also like Tempo a lot more, I think it flows better and fits more with the mechanic.
Question: Would we want to have different kinds of Tempo's, such as:
Tempo Upkeep- At the beginning of your upkeep, transform this.
Tempo Combat- At the beginning of combat on your turn, transform this.
Tempo End Step- At the beginning of your end step, transform this.
I honestly don't know how this would turn out, but it might be something to play around with going forward, and it would present more design space with the mechanic.
About Harmonize- How do we feel about this version of the mechanic:
Harmonize N- Target noncreature permanent becomes a(n) N/N Song creature with haste in addition to its other types until end of turn.
In terms of animating planeswalkers, we've seen this before with multiple Gideon's, so that shouldn't be to much of a problem. Does this seem to work?
"I sing to the branches, and they reach to the sky.
I sing to the leaves, and the open to the sun.
I sing to the roots, and they dig their fingers deep.
I sing the song that creation sung."
That flavor text seems to fit the prevalence of music in Ozorion, and what if one of those Woodland Mystics was on ... I dunno ... Zendikar or something ... and when [something happened], her planeswalker spark ignited and she ended up on Ozorion? Seems like a neat way to get a singer planeswalker? I dunno. Just throwing things out there!
That's definitely the plan! We'll have at least one planeswalker like that, right now the thought is a Motzart-inspired young musician. He'll be someone for every student at the school to look up to.
@TerryTags
Just saw your suggestion and I really like it! I think it would be an awsome plot point for Ozorion to be a kind of a magnet for musician planeswalkers on other planes. (:
Thoughts on the Harmonize mechanic?
How do you feel about: Harmonize N - As long as [whatever this permanent is] is on the battlefield, target noncreature permanent becomes a(n) N/N Song creature in addition to its other types.
Maybe?
Just seems like turning my Gruul Locket (for example) into a 3/3 creature with Haste, plus drawing a card, even at Sorcery speed, would seem to be a bit steeper in cost than a CMC of 3? I'm still new at this, though! LOL
The one problem with that suggestion is the fact that it can only be on nonland permanents. I wanted to open it up to instants and sorceries as well, to add some more variety. Since our other new mechanic, Tempo, doesn't work on Instants and Sorceries, I think it would be good to have that contrast.
About the Haste, that can be fixed. I see what you mean about that power level, so I would say we can just remove that part.
Looks smoother (:
In terms of this specific card's power level, I would argue that I usually associate one {G} mana with one card. I think the extra 2 mana on top of that should be fine for a 3/3 until end of turn.
If no one has any objections, we'll be using this version for now!
One more new mechanic?
As we've seen from Ikoria, sets can definitely have more than two new mechanics. They usually only use one old mechanic, and rebound fits that slot for us. Now the question is: Do we want another?Some thoughts for this:
- We want it to be especially flavorful. All recent sets in magic have one mechanic like this, to fit with the time period or mythology. Examples:
- Theros: Escape
- Ikoria: Mutate
- Amonkhet: Embalm
- Eldraine: Food/Adventure
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-Rezatta: Masterwork
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- While Tempo and Harmonize are music-based, we need something more flavorful at this point. If not a mechanic, maybe a theme?
Thoughts?
https://mtgcardsmith.com/user/shadow123/sets/46214
I really like the song mechanic! The one thing here is that it probably won't appear in common. There haven't been common non-aura enchantments in a while, and sagas follow the same rule. However, I would love for songs to make an appearance in the uncommon and rare slots!!
I saw the mechanic before, and was actually meaning to ask you if it was OK to use. I'll start experimenting on cardsmith when I get the chance. (:
@TerryTags ;
About Echo: It seems like it could work given the circumstances, but at the moment there's not much room for it... It doesn't seem to connect with the set directly, but I saw what you said and we can definitely keep in in mind in case we have space later on!
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General: While the set is generally music-based, I would like to have one mechanic that doesn't scream "music" when mentioned.
I know this is kind of Rezatta territory, but I just wanted to throw it out there: What do we think of a Rebirth-type mechanic? Rezatta never really ended up using it, they used Renaissance (A life-based mechanic) instead.
This could also give us a chance to bring back the Enlightenment theme:
I think it would be cool for there to be some kind of a "trial" that each true warrior has to pass in order to be respected on the plane, involving enlightenment. Maybe this won't work, but i would definitely say that we need a sub theme; Not just a bland music plane with tribes.
Enlighten isn't fixed, and right now it's kind of copying an old Rezatta idea- I'm open to suggestions on how to improve it!
My other suggestion is taking out rebound and replacing it with enlighten.