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Well with your current wording, you can only use the cards the exact turn you pull them.
Take a look at Profane Procession and Tomb of the Dusk Rose as an example:
And even Knowledge Pool if you wanna see an example of an artifact that allows you to cast any cards exiled with it:
The card says "You may play cards exiled with epitome of possibility this turn." This means the effect only lasts a turn.
Although I believe this is only a matter of wording that's the issue. I believe that "Until end of turn, you may cast cards exiled with Epitome of Possibility" matches up with the tome's intended effect.
OOOOH! You mean any cards exiled with it, past or present. I feel like the most clear way to depict that is just to have the cast of the card tied to it remaining in exile (see Gonti, lord of Luxury).
(Edited) NOTE: I was thinking that all players prepare 100 custom cards in their face-down pile zone before the game.
Yeah, good point. It probably is fine to do that.
The only issue is that it won't allow you on Untap to add cards of one players' to another's hand (as far as I'm aware).
In the scenario we are discussing, only @ManaChrome would actually have the ability to "do" anything with the custom cards as he'll be the only one with them in his "deck."
@ManaChrome
This idea actually works a lot better in Paper Magic. Do you have people to test this with? If so, you could just print the customs and sleeve them on top of real cards. It would be a great way to test the ideas feasibility.
So @ManaChrome is the only player who has Epitome of Possibility in deck? Then shouldn't it say "Any player may activate this ability"?
My understanding was each player started the game with one of those on the battlefield.
I thought so too but @Faiths_Guide says ManaChrome is the only one who has custom cards in his deck.
@pjbear2005
I think you need to use magic set editor
If you start the game with players who have only normal cards in their decks and you ask them "do you want to use custom cards?" during the game, things get complex. I believe it's possible, but cards like bounce spells cause issues, because no one owns the custom cards that come from out side the game. I think using copies and tokens that are copies of custom cards can solve that problem, because they disappear when they leave stack or battlefield. But the text becomes very long. Something like this-
"At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player may pay {x}. If they do, they choose a custom card from outside the game at random and reveal it. If it's an instant or sorcery card with converted mana cost X or less, they may cast a copy of it without paying its mana cost until their next turn. If it's a permanent card with converted mana cost X or less, they may create a token that's a copy of it until their next turn."
I was referring to how @ManaChrome’s card was worded, and also to the fact that you can’t “gift” decks in untap. If you want to just start a game giving people the ability to play with you, only @Manachrome (in this example) would have acess to the custom card deck. Each player would have a copy of the face up custom Epitome.
Otherwise you’d have to prep people, tell them which cards to add and how to do so, etc. etc. I don’t think it would be viable.
Also, a solution to the custom card conundrum would be a variant of the original wording suggestion I made:
If a custom card would leave the battlefield, stack, or be put into a graveyard, return it to the face-down pile instead.
@Faiths_Guide I like the wording on the extra effect that prevents this! However, I believe that Whenever a player casts a custom spell, if it would be put into a player's hand, graveyard, exile, or library, return it to the facedown pile instead. is a more fitting wording so that permanent cards don't immediately disappear when they resolve.
I think I'm gonna either put this effect on another artifact to lessen the words on Epitome. Maybe I'll put it on an enchantment that only I control since it effects everyone.
Anyways it don't have to be that complex. The game is to have fun so go simple with it but make sure everyone's cool about it. Share the cards and or have everyone look at the cards before you start the game. Its worth a shot and its fun even if you get slaughtered by plant tokens lol.
I think the spell that's resolving is also leaving the stack. With that wording, we can never get permanents.
@ManaChrome
"Whenever a player casts a custom spell," isn't necessary. It doesn't need to say "exile" too because exile is the zone players share. So my suggestion is
"If a custom card would be put into a player's hand, graveyard, or library, return it to the face-down pile instead."
I also suggest you to give a new name to the pile, because players might be using another card that uses face-down pile. http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mangara's+Tome
@sorinjace
lol, we're are talking about playing the card in Untap.in. Not in real world. In Untap, players can't put cards they get from someone else's pile into their libraries. If a player try to do so, the card is automatically removed from the game. That's why custom cards must be returned to face-down pile if they would be put into players' hands, graveyards, or libraries.
Testing it out in paper would probably have the best results.
To @Tomigon:
I'll try and see what I can do ^-^ Currently having some school things in the way, but I'll try and tweak the design of the tome accordingly.
To All:
I look forward to all your entries
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