The damage from Snailesh Norn's ability isn't scaled—it’s a flat 1 life loss per damage-dealing source. So if your opponent swings in with multiple creatures or activates abilities from multiple sources, each source that deals damage triggers the life loss effect individually.
For example:
If three creatures your opponent controls deal combat damage to you, that’s 1 life lost per creature, for a total of 3 life lost.
If a burn spell like Shock deals 2 damage to you, it’s still just 1 life lost since it’s a single source.
It’s such a flavorful way to punish overly aggressive opponents, especially in multiplayer games where every damage-dealing move can cost them in return. Plus, the synergy with Norn’s other abilities makes this Phyrexian Snail a real headache for your opponents! Did you have some ideas in mind for exploiting Snailesh Norn’s ability further? Maybe pairing it with something like Authority of the Consuls or Revenge of Ravens?
i feel like the damaging ability is a little bit underwhelming, since your still unable to effectively answer. But it would be pretty cool if your opponent is at seven life with a craterhoof behemoth, plays it, swings in with 8 creatures, and you say "you die. Sorry!"
That’s a hilarious scenario! Snailesh Norn's ability might seem subtle, but the chaos it creates in multiplayer or with the right setup is incredible. Imagine:
Opponent plays Craterhoof Behemoth thinking they've won. They swing with 8 pumped creatures, you sit back and grin:
"Congrats, you just lost 8 life and handed me the game."
Even though Snailesh doesn’t directly answer threats, the psychological play here is huge. It makes your opponents second-guess every aggressive move against you. Pairing Snailesh with cards like Ghostly Prison or Propaganda could make it even nastier since opponents would already struggle to attack efficiently, and when they finally do—they pay for it, literally.
Also, imagine this in a deck with Blazing Sunsteel or Spiteful Sliver. Suddenly, Snailesh becomes part of a damage-reflection package that makes attacking or burning you a death sentence. Would you tweak the card to add more interaction, or do you like its current flavor as a slow-burn punishment tool?
Agreed—the slow burn is perfect for white Phyrexians, embodying inevitability and control rather than flashy, instant impact. It's like they're slowly suffocating their opponents under an oppressive aura, one life at a time.
It also fits the lore of Elesh Norn's faction, where domination isn't about brute force but about creating a relentless, inescapable presence. Snailesh Norn might not wipe the board or hit hard, but it punishes aggression and ensures that every choice an opponent makes feels costly.
Would love to see Snailesh in action with some thematic support—maybe cards like Blind Obedience or Authority of the Consuls to further tax aggressive plays while you sit back and watch opponents dig their own graves.
Well, since you guys are judging cards, your thoughts on this card I made; If you want to know The Latexmind's lore, just ask me so. It is inspired by Changed and Halo.
Hi! the runner of this conversation ( @jpastor ) is no longer active on any other conversations except his current projects, but I will take over. @FireOfGolden The design of Latexmind, Knowledge Seeker is incredibly flavorful and represents the actual character in Neverend extremely well mechanics-wise. I personally don't understand the flavor of the exhaustion counters; is it like Latexmind becoming starved for knowledge? Let me know, but overall, this card is a solid 8/10!
@Mellow_MC Thanks for feedback! Exhaustion counter represents the loss of energy. It takes energy to patch the damaged area and doing so it has to dissolve the host(s) to keep supply latex. If there is not enough energy to supply a burst of latex, Latexmind will feel "hunger" for host. When it runs out of energy before getting host, it will slow down then breaks down into nothing but latex.
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A fiery breeze rustles the ancient jungle canopy as mana sparks flicker in the distance...
@LvB drops a blessed banger of a tribute with Birds of Llanowar—a flavorful fusion of Paradise and Power. One mana. One wingbeat. One paradise.
“Sages whisper of an undiscovered natural paradise...”
Are we hearing the first tale of an unexplored realm? A lost world caught between fire and forest?
@Lurisauri, we see you with that sad face. 😢 What's breaking your heart? Or maybe... is this a sign? A piece of a broken paradise?
@Mellow_MC, bringing the vibe: "always be up!" Are the skies calling us higher?
COMMUNITY CALL: What is this place?
Do we explore this volcanic-tropical-jungle hybrid?
Do we build a challenge around it?
Start a saga?
Or just keep vibing?
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 2: "Set Sail for the Unseen"
By Corwinnn’s call and Lurisauri’s tide-bound spirit, the path is clear.
🦜 We sail. We explore. 🌴
Across the molten shores of Llanowar’s edge, past the mist-veiled canopy, lies the myth: Tropivolca — an island lost to time, whispered by birds, and guarded by ancient magic.
🗺️ This week’s quest: Chart the Tropivolca Isles. What lies here?
A card?
A creature?
A place?
A danger or treasure?
Your imagination sets the sails.
📜 Challenge #1: Create something from Tropivolca.
It can be:
It is said that Tropicolva was once a paradise of Llanowar-until it was suddenly abandoned by three ancient Llanowar. Why is this? Why are the ruins of the ancient Llanowar so destroyed? What, is this ancient island hiding.
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 3: “Whispers in the Canopy”
Mellow_MC speaks of a fall.
A paradise lost.
Three ancient Llanowar vanished… and their island left in ruin.
But why?
🌿 And now, from the jungles, a new force emerges: Feral Explorers —
Monkeys? Elves? Or the strange remnants of something... in between?
They leap, they hunt, they explore.
They remember.
“They don't need a map... But why are their ears so pointed?”
A shoutout for getting weird with the biology—maybe the mutation is part of the mystery? Or maybe it’s just a flavor-glitch from Tropivolca’s wild mana surge. AI mistake? Or clue?
Mana works through being channeled through leylines in the ground. Perhaps Tropicolva was at an intersection with many leylines just as they began to fluctuate.
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 4: “The Jungle Remembers”
Lurisauri hears it like a thundering waterfall.
Mellow_MC speaks of fluctuating leylines.
Tropivolca is no ordinary island...
It’s a convergence. A fault line in the mana web.
A place where reality trembles.
🌿 And now, our first true key into the heart of the island:
Whispers of the Jungle {3}{G} Search for land. Venture into dungeon.
Two paths, one silence.
One land leads you forward. The other? Memory.
“The jungle fell silent as they crossed the ancient threshold...”
Is this the beginning of a dungeon? Or something deeper… a buried city?
A temple sealed by leyline surges?
The echoes... are calling.
🧭 COMMUNITY PROMPT: DESCENT INTO THE UNKNOWN
You’ve passed the threshold. You’ve heard the whispers. Now choose your role:
🧙 An explorer seeking forgotten knowledge
🐾 A Feral, driven by instinct
🌌 A mana-seeker tracing leyline paths
🧬 Something else…?
📜 Create a Room of the Dungeon.
(Design a card, scene, hazard, or vision.)
Let’s build this dungeon piece by piece.
Each entry deepens the legend of Tropivolca.
Lay your next room. Speak your next whisper.
Let the jungle remember through you.
They enter; the ancient walls causing their footsteps to echo. The walls and ceiling are lined with foliage. The vines cover ancient runes and totems depicting demons and…strange creatures. Aliens, made of twisting and writhing tentacles.
They trace the carvings, the symbols lighting up a deep grey underneath their fingers. One whimpers as it feels a strange power emanating from the walls. They continue to move through the structure, familiarity circling through their minds. They recognize this place.
As they descend deeper, the iconography lining the walls becomes more alien.
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@Mellow_MC
The damage from Snailesh Norn's ability isn't scaled—it’s a flat 1 life loss per damage-dealing source. So if your opponent swings in with multiple creatures or activates abilities from multiple sources, each source that deals damage triggers the life loss effect individually.
For example:
It’s such a flavorful way to punish overly aggressive opponents, especially in multiplayer games where every damage-dealing move can cost them in return. Plus, the synergy with Norn’s other abilities makes this Phyrexian Snail a real headache for your opponents! Did you have some ideas in mind for exploiting Snailesh Norn’s ability further? Maybe pairing it with something like Authority of the Consuls or Revenge of Ravens?
@Mellow_MC
That’s a hilarious scenario! Snailesh Norn's ability might seem subtle, but the chaos it creates in multiplayer or with the right setup is incredible. Imagine:
Opponent plays Craterhoof Behemoth thinking they've won. They swing with 8 pumped creatures, you sit back and grin:
"Congrats, you just lost 8 life and handed me the game."
Even though Snailesh doesn’t directly answer threats, the psychological play here is huge. It makes your opponents second-guess every aggressive move against you. Pairing Snailesh with cards like Ghostly Prison or Propaganda could make it even nastier since opponents would already struggle to attack efficiently, and when they finally do—they pay for it, literally.
Also, imagine this in a deck with Blazing Sunsteel or Spiteful Sliver. Suddenly, Snailesh becomes part of a damage-reflection package that makes attacking or burning you a death sentence. Would you tweak the card to add more interaction, or do you like its current flavor as a slow-burn punishment tool?
@Mellow_MC
Agreed—the slow burn is perfect for white Phyrexians, embodying inevitability and control rather than flashy, instant impact. It's like they're slowly suffocating their opponents under an oppressive aura, one life at a time.
It also fits the lore of Elesh Norn's faction, where domination isn't about brute force but about creating a relentless, inescapable presence. Snailesh Norn might not wipe the board or hit hard, but it punishes aggression and ensures that every choice an opponent makes feels costly.
Would love to see Snailesh in action with some thematic support—maybe cards like Blind Obedience or Authority of the Consuls to further tax aggressive plays while you sit back and watch opponents dig their own graves.
If you want to know The Latexmind's lore, just ask me so. It is inspired by Changed and Halo.
@FireOfGolden
The design of Latexmind, Knowledge Seeker is incredibly flavorful and represents the actual character in Neverend extremely well mechanics-wise. I personally don't understand the flavor of the exhaustion counters; is it like Latexmind becoming starved for knowledge? Let me know, but overall, this card is a solid 8/10!
Thanks for feedback! Exhaustion counter represents the loss of energy. It takes energy to patch the damaged area and doing so it has to dissolve the host(s) to keep supply latex. If there is not enough energy to supply a burst of latex, Latexmind will feel "hunger" for host. When it runs out of energy before getting host, it will slow down then breaks down into nothing but latex.
A fiery breeze rustles the ancient jungle canopy as mana sparks flicker in the distance...
@LvB drops a blessed banger of a tribute with Birds of Llanowar—a flavorful fusion of Paradise and Power. One mana. One wingbeat. One paradise.
@Lurisauri, we see you with that sad face. 😢 What's breaking your heart? Or maybe... is this a sign? A piece of a broken paradise?
@Mellow_MC, bringing the vibe: "always be up!" Are the skies calling us higher?
COMMUNITY CALL: What is this place?
Do we explore this volcanic-tropical-jungle hybrid?
Do we build a challenge around it?
Start a saga?
Or just keep vibing?
What’s your next move?
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 2: "Set Sail for the Unseen"
By Corwinnn’s call and Lurisauri’s tide-bound spirit, the path is clear.
🦜 We sail. We explore. 🌴
Across the molten shores of Llanowar’s edge, past the mist-veiled canopy, lies the myth:
Tropivolca — an island lost to time, whispered by birds, and guarded by ancient magic.
🗺️ This week’s quest:
Chart the Tropivolca Isles. What lies here?
A card?
A creature?
A place?
A danger or treasure?
Your imagination sets the sails.
📜 Challenge #1: Create something from Tropivolca.
It can be:
A custom card
A story snippet
A map sketch
A legend or rumor
A new mechanic
Drop it below, and let the next chapter unfold!
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 3: “Whispers in the Canopy”
Mellow_MC speaks of a fall.
A paradise lost.
Three ancient Llanowar vanished… and their island left in ruin.
But why?
🌿 And now, from the jungles, a new force emerges:
Feral Explorers —
Monkeys? Elves? Or the strange remnants of something... in between?
They leap, they hunt, they explore.
They remember.
A shoutout for getting weird with the biology—maybe the mutation is part of the mystery? Or maybe it’s just a flavor-glitch from Tropivolca’s wild mana surge. AI mistake? Or clue?
🧠 THEORIES & DISCOVERIES TIME:
What happened to the three Llanowar?
Were they gods? Planeswalkers? Exiled rebels?
What is this mana anomaly on Tropivolca?
Can it create hybrids? Does it warp nature?
Are these “monkeys” really... descendants?
Let the lore-twisting continue! Throw in:
More cards
Theories
Ancient texts
Monkey sketches
Mana science
Wild speculation
We’re on the edge of something BIG.
It literally rushes in my head like a thundering waterfall how the story could continue.
The Experiment ⚪🔵⚫🔴🟢 — Phase 4: “The Jungle Remembers”
Lurisauri hears it like a thundering waterfall.
Mellow_MC speaks of fluctuating leylines.
Tropivolca is no ordinary island...
It’s a convergence. A fault line in the mana web.
A place where reality trembles.
🌿 And now, our first true key into the heart of the island:
Whispers of the Jungle {3}{G}
Search for land. Venture into dungeon.
Two paths, one silence.
One land leads you forward. The other? Memory.
🧭 COMMUNITY PROMPT: DESCENT INTO THE UNKNOWN
You’ve passed the threshold. You’ve heard the whispers. Now choose your role:
🧙 An explorer seeking forgotten knowledge
🐾 A Feral, driven by instinct
🌌 A mana-seeker tracing leyline paths
🧬 Something else…?
📜 Create a Room of the Dungeon.
(Design a card, scene, hazard, or vision.)
Let’s build this dungeon piece by piece.
Each entry deepens the legend of Tropivolca.
Lay your next room. Speak your next whisper.
Let the jungle remember through you.
They continue to move through the structure, familiarity circling through their minds. They recognize this place.
They do not return.