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Music-Themed Enlightenment Based Set- EXPLORATORY DESIGN PHASE
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Lol, the point is, I taught myself how to effectively use mtg.design! Yay!
HEre's the card @Ral1000
I really like it! This is honestly very creative, and I'm sure we could find a way to include it.
The only small issue here is that all of the common instant/sorcery slots in white usually have some other purpose, such as removal, buff, team boost, tap, ect. As such, this might work better for uncommon, because adding an additional ability to it might be a little over the top. Again, I really love this idea, and I'm sure we can fit it into uncommon if not common.
@LordTachanka123
I like this! We would probably have to adjust it a bit, since the name seems a little out of sorts, and we might want another art. I also changed the first line of text, because 3 mana for a -1/-1 counter isn't too significant. I also would like to steer away from -1/-1 counters, since they can cause confusion when put together with +1/+1 counters, and the two are almost never printed in the same set.
Thanks so much for these ideas guys!!
Side note:It was placeholder art, but now that you mention it...
Some more ideas to throw around:
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CW04
Creature 1W
When CARDNAME etbs, Harmonize 2.
0/1
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CW05
Creature 2W
When CARDNAME dies, Harmonize 3.
2/2
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CW17
Instant 3W
Enlighten
Exile target creature with power 4 or greater. If CARDNAME was enlightened, exile target creature instead.
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(Nitpick) I just realized that Harmonize needs to prevent players from animating Auras since they would just die. This wording should be fix it...
Harmonize N (Put N +1/+1 counters on target noncreature, non-Aura permanent you control. It becomes a 0/0 Song creature in addition to its other types.)
Equipments will be fine since they will just fall off and continue to stay on the battlefield.
Also, do we want to animate planeswalkers? It technically works at the moment but I think it's a flavor fail.
-Beginning of turn: Untap both, both triggers target each other. In response, tap them for mana. Untap them, get the triggers, ect.
Otherwise I really like the idea and it's definitely something we could work with.
@LordTachanka123 thanks for the help! Sounds cool (:
@LyndonF thanks for all this! I'll start messing around with these ideas, I appreciate the thoughts put into them!
As for the planeswalkers, I see what you mean, as it would get pretty messy with the +1/+1 and loyalty counters at the same time. It seems a little problematic to say "noncreature, non-Aura, non-planeswalker permanent" though. Huh. I'll have to think on this.
However, we could potentially come up with a keyword thing like "historic", but it would be for creatures, planeswalkers, and Auras. Perhaps "entity" or something as an example... so like:
Harmonize: "Put N +1/+1 counters on target non-entity permanent you control. (Creatures, Planeswalkers, and Auras are entity permanents.)"
I do have a question about auras: Would they really become unattached? Couldn't they stay on the creature and become a creature of their own? I know it would be a bit confusing, but I think it can be dealt with... I'm just not seeing why the auras would become unattached.
@LyndonF, @Alextorrez6, @shadow123
- I double checked the rules and by rule 304.d, an animated Aura will die as a state-based effect. But we can just ignore it and that's probably fine.
- If you accidentally animate a land that just enter the battlefield, it can't attack or tap for mana. An easy fix (actually easy, I promise) is:
Harmonize X (... 0/0 Song creature with haste in addition ...)
Now some more card ideas!
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CU13
Sorcery 1U
Scry 1, then draw a card.
Rebound
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CU14
Instant 1U
Enlighten
Return target creature to its owner's hand. If CARDNAME was enlightened, put it on top of its owner's library instead.
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CU15
Instant 2U
Enlighten
Counter target spell unless its controller pays {4}. If CARDNAME was enlightened, counter that spell instead.
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CU17 (functional reprint)
Sorcery 3U
Target creature you control gets +2/+0 and can't be blocked this turn.
Rebound
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As you can see, it seems like there are a lot of options to be put on commons, but not a lot of cards, so I've tried putting them together on the same card, so we can leave effects which are too powerful to be combined with anything on their own (e.g. mass card draw).
About the card ideas: I love the idea of combining general effects that we need to include (removal, card draw, ect.) with the keywords, and these are some great examples. Thanks for doing all this!
Unless anyone else has anything to contribute to this discussion, I'd like to transition into Vision Design phase by the end of the week. I'll create a new thread outlining what we have at the moment, and what we want to improve on.
Thanks so much for all the support thus far, and I'd love for everybody to continue on our journey!
Many sets in magic has been themed around important periods and cultures in real world history. This seems to give the set a better feel, and make things easier to work with.
What would you guys think of basing this set around Ancient Mesopotamia? There was a fair amount of music in this period, and it seems to be an intriguing period to undertake an enlightenment. What do y'all say?
We'll go further in depth with this when we begin Vision design. Stay tuned everyone!