Question rule of MTG

When you do a band and then the battle cry ability tiggers, the band gets +1/+0 or each creature separately?

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  • LvBLvB
    edited June 2023
    Each Creature is affected.
    Banding does not "melt" 2 creatures into one, they are only treated like that when attacking or blocking. Spells that affect all creatures affect both of them.
    And if a single spell would "destroy target creature" it doesnt destroy the whole band, but only one creature.
  • @smax765
    When a creature with banding attacks alongside other creatures that are also part of a band, the band is treated as a single "attacking creature" for the purpose of abilities like Battle Cry. So, if a creature in the band has Battle Cry, the ability will trigger once for the entire band, not for each individual creature within the band. This means the band as a whole will receive a single +1/+0 bonus, regardless of the number of creatures in the band.
  • LvBLvB
    edited June 2023

    702.19. Banding

    702.19a. Banding is a static ability that modifies the rules for combat.

    702.19b. „Bands with other“ is a special form of banding. If an effect causes a permanent to lose banding, the permanent loses all „bands with other“ abilities as well.

    702.19c. As a player declares attackers, he or she may declare that one or more attacking creatures with banding and up to one attacking creature without banding (even if it has „bands with other“) are all in a „band.“ He or she may also declare that one or more attacking [quality] creatures with „bands with other [quality]“ and any number of other attacking [quality] creatures are all in a band. A player may declare as many attacking bands as he or she wants, but each creature may be a member of only one of them. (Defending players can't declare bands but may use banding in a different way; see rule 702.19j.)

    702.19d. All creatures in an attacking band must attack the same player or planeswalker.

    702.19e. Once an attacking band has been announced, it lasts for the rest of combat, even if something later removes banding or „bands with other“ from one or more of the creatures in the band.

    702.19f. An attacking creature that's removed from combat is also removed from the band it was in.

    702.19g. Banding doesn't cause attacking creatures to share abilities, nor does it remove any abilities. The attacking creatures in a band are separate permanents.

    702.19h. If an attacking creature becomes blocked by a creature, each other creature in the same band as the attacking creature becomes blocked by that same blocking creature.

    Example: A player attacks with a band consisting of a creature with flying and a creature with swampwalk. The defending player, who controls a Swamp, can block the flying creature if able. If he or she does, then the creature with swampwalk will also become blocked by the blocking creature(s).

    702.19i. If one member of a band would become blocked due to an effect, the entire band becomes blocked.

    702.19j. During the combat damage step, if an attacking creature is being blocked by a creature with banding, or by both a [quality] creature with „bands with other [quality]“ and another [quality] creature, the defending player (rather than the active player) chooses how the attacking creature's damage is assigned. That player can divide that creature's combat damage as he or she chooses among any number of creatures blocking it. This is an exception to the procedure described in rule 510.1c.

    702.19k. During the combat damage step, if a blocking creature is blocking a creature with banding, or both a [quality] creature with „bands with other [quality]“ and another [quality] creature, the active player (rather than the defending player) chooses how the blocking creature's damage is assigned. That player can divide that creature's combat damage as he or she chooses among any number of creatures it's blocking. This is an exception to the procedure described in rule 510.1d.

    702.19m. Multiple instances of banding on the same creature are redundant. Multiple instances of „bands with other“ of the same kind on the same creature are redundant.


    • If a creature with banding attacks, it can team up with any number of other attacking creatures with banding (and up to one nonbanding creature) and attack as a unit called a „band.“ The band can be blocked by any creature that could block a single creature in the band. Blocking any creature in a band blocks the entire band. If a creature with banding is blocked, the attacking player chooses how the blockers' damage is assigned.
    • A maximum of one nonbanding creature can join an attacking band no matter how many creatures with banding are in it.
    • Creatures in the same band must all attack the same player or planeswalker.
    • If a creature in combat has banding, it's controller assigns damage for creatures blocking or blocked by it. That player can ignore the damage assignment order when making this assignment.
    Thats the actual rules text for banding. The creatures are always separate creatures, even when attacking or blocking as a band.
  • aaaaaa ok thanks
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