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"To All Those Haters Contest!!!"
This is a contest to that needs to be somewhat offensive to either a person, or another tcg etc.
(most common, trump cards)
Deadline is May 20
(most common, trump cards)
Deadline is May 20
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http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/captain-nazi
Offensive to republicans. It's socialism.
It's offensive to me.
This card gives all your soldiers haste, like the blitz, gives all your creatures with Blonde hair and Blue eyes a slight boost, and even lets you commit Mass genocide! What's not to love?
Where is my prize?
http://mtgcardsmith.com/view/adolf-hitler-48?list=set&set=9909
Plus, soldiers are more of a white thing :P
The only things that offend me are people who use the word "autist" as an insult, people that are anti-vaccine and Trump-followers (/s), so we're good.
I... I hope not. I like being me, In Denmark
Also, Hitler seems like he'd be WBR to me. Red because his platform was based on an appeal to Germany's emotional state at the time. Black because mass murder (and, in tandem with White, because he cared about a particular sub-group's general welfare while disregarding and even supplanting others). White because White is the primary color for leadership and because Hitler did what he did for what he considered to be the greater good (as far as Germany was concerned).
Arguments could also be made for Blue since he was advocating the rise of the Aryan race as what could be considered the "perfect" race.
Also throw Green in there because real life people are all five colors.
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Oh! Right! The contest!
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I don't have anything for it. I don't particularly like hating on people/concepts/stuff.
Also, Wrath effects are not necessarily indicative of mass murder; you need to look at their flavoring. In White, they're effectively the bomb you drop when the zombie apocalypse has happened and you need to do something drastic so more people don't die. They bring ends to conflict even if only temporarily. In Black, they're a means of killing things that are in your way or bothering you.
It's the difference between End Hostilities and In Garruk's Wake/Languish.
Now, if we want to talk mechanics, there's some other stuff I can bring up (I'll post them under the card listing itself).
Wrath of God (at least pre-Heliod) and Day of Judgement sort of speak for themselves in name alone, but Akroma's Vengeance is attributed to her seeking punishment against the people (and their stuff if we bring mechanical ramifications into flavor's perspective) who killed someone. In each case it's not murder for murder's sake or to remove obstacles so much as to right wrongs.
It will usually come down to a matter of perspective, though.
Phyrexian Rebirth is, however, skewed in another direction in regards to flavor and in-color motivation. I'm sure there are others like it, too. It's a part of mechanical and philosophical aspects of colors not always agreeing when actual cards get made.
That being said, from a MTG perspective, there are creatures who are capable of wiping the board thanks to artifacts or power/authority they have. Mageta the Lion, Magus of the Disk, Bearer of the Heavens, Child of Alara, Deathbringer Regent, many more.
I mean more in regards to motivation and not so much execution. The "why" isn't always a factor (Phyrexian Rebirth), but it typically is. The "how" is also a lot easier to justify (ice freezes stuff, fire burns stuff, gods have giant fists, etc.). Bearer of the Heavens, for example, is pretty clear in what it is that causes the actual board wipe to occur (flavorfully speaking), but the motivation is pretty lacking (I'm not sure "Whoops! I dropped the everything!" fits into any particular color's philosophical motivations).
There will be occasional philosophical/mechanical dissonance, but that's just because in-color mechanics (should) always trump in-color flavor. That said, this dissonance should be kept to a minimum.
Megeta the Lion, on the other hand, is pretty clear in both regards. He's a general leading an army of his people against their invaders, there are a bunch of casualties, and he's the only one left alive because he's a huge badass (I'm inferring all of this from what little knowledge I have of his background). He does have the authority/power for it, but his motivation is a key aspect in the card's full flavor.
(P.S. I should also point out that Hitler was fanatical about finding a technologically advanced super weapon, which feels very blue to me.)
(P.P.S. I get that black wraths are more about selfishness than doing what's right, but I also see a lot of the newer black wraths are effects like "Were walking through a swamp and mosquitoes are killing us")
Well Mageta was never more than a military man, never promoted genocide, and never invaded anything and Hitler never looked good in white war paint and animal skins, and he killed himself, but sure. Alter all your copies of Mageta to have that signature mustache.
@KrampisZman
Oh, I see. That didn't come through to me at all. I think I would have just gone with the overt "Nazi and Aryan creatures you control get +1/+1" route.
And sure. There are plenty reasons for him to be Blue in some aspect. Like I said, real people are all five colors.
Again, philosophical/mechanical dissonance is a thing.
@TheFreindlyGeek
Sorry. We're just partaking in simple conversation. After this post I'll keep things on-topic.
Sorry @TheFriendlyGeek But hey, at least more people will see your contest now
2nd Place: @KrampisZman
3rd Place: @strongbelieves
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